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--- Begin Message --- -Caveat Lector-Kane responds to Thorn’s Attack on Ruppert
B02195 Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:38:17 -0800Michael Kane responds to Thorn’s “crux” questions
“We want to see where Mike Ruppert stands on the crux issues!”
Victor Thorn, December 7, 2004
I chose to write this response because I believe I can quickly assist in answering the “crux” questions that Victor Thorn says he hoped to ask Mike on his radio show. But first I have just one minor correction to Thorn’s piece
Mike Ruppert has never called himself, “The Godfather of 9/11 Research,” as Dave McGowan claims. It was Anthony Lappe of GNN.tv who coined that phrase for Mike in September of 2003, it can be read here.
Now lets move on to more important issues. According to Thorn, the crux questions of 9/11 are two fold:
1. Demolition of the Towers
2. What really hit the Pentagon
Thorn alleges Mike never addresses these crux issues in any significant way in his book. For anyone that has read CROSSING THE RUBICON, or at least, has read the transcript of Mike Ruppert’s speech at the Commonwealth Club, it is made very clear where Mike stands on these issues.
I will quote directly from Mike’s speech:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/PDF/Commonwealth.pdf
I WILL SAY ONE MORE THING BEFORE LEAVING THE SUBJECT OF 9/11 TONIGHT. I LIKE MANY AMERICANS AND MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE SERIOUS LINGERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COLLAPSE OF THE TWIN TOWERS, WHAT IT WAS THAT ACTUALLY STRUCK THE PENTAGON AND WHAT – IN THE NAME OF GOD – IT WAS THAT CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF WTC 7, A BUILDING THAT HAD NOT EVEN BEEN STRUCK DURING THE ATTACKS.
———————————————————-This was not, by any means, the first time Mike addressed this issue. In fact, Mike actually apologized to his readers, and the 9/11 research community, over one year ago in regards to an article published on September 13, 2001, where he quoted a BBC report supporting the now completely discredited theory that jet fuel fires caused the Twin Towers to collapse.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112603_kennedy.html
This report is not mentioned in Thorn’s piece. He only references the first piece from September 13, 2001, never mentioning the retraction that was posted at the top of FTW on November 26, 2003.
In CROSSING THE RUBICON Mike goes further into these issues and made a great find in the 9/11 Commission report regarding a study done prior to 9/11 on the WTC complex which would have been perfectly useful for anyone planning on demolishing the towers. Thorn dismisses this entirely as there to distract the reader from the real issue of controlled demolition, even though it supports the theory itself.
The worst mistake of all is when Thorn says he went looking in the index of Mike’s book for the following:
“But much to my dismay, guess what I discovered. Nothing … no precise details whatsoever describing the core issues of 9-11. I even went to the book’s index and looked-up every reference to “The World Trade Center” and the “Pentagon”—- and still nothing. In 670 pages!
This is false. Quoting from CROSSING THE RUBICON – page 351, referenced in the books Index under Pentagon – attack:
Flight 77 again: the miracle plane. The one that nobody actually saw hit the Pentagon; the one that left no recognizable debris matching an airliner; the one French author and investigator Thierry Meyssan did a pretty convincing job of proving never hit the Pentagon because the hole was way too small and the damage pattern (a key forensic technique used by police officers investigating traffic accidents) as totally inconsistent with a mid-sized passenger jet like a 757; the one where the engines melted, disappeared or evaporated, or were transported into space by the Starship Enterprise and never found; the one that flew like a fighter plane or a cruise missile.41
Meyssan was crucified in the American press, although his book L’Effroyable Imposture, or The Horrifying Fraud, became a runaway bestseller in Europe. This was another lesson for me about what happens in America when one tries to make a conspiracy case in the public arena, based solely upon physical evidence. That approach gave rise to verbal attacks and politically empty debates that merely wasted time and energy. I have never believed that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. I also deliberately chose not to pursue it in my newsletter because I couldn’t prove it by the rigorous standards of either the law courts or by peer-reviewed forensic science. Of course, like Meyssan and everyone else, I’ve been dogged by the big question about the alleged Pentagon plane: where did Flight 77 go, and what happened to the passengers?
—————————————-Where Mike stands on these issues is no mystery.
But apparently Thorn does not feel this adequately deals with the issue of Flight 77 and the Pentagon. However, there’s already been an entire book dedicated to the topic, which Mike sources and directs his readers to.
Regarding the World Trade Center demolitions, Mike believes that there was remote control hardware in WTC 7 that was used to ensure pin-point accuracy of the attacks. WTC 7 therefore had to be demolished to get rid of any trace of the Command and Control Operation happening in the building. This is in his final summation chapter. A similar position was eluded to by Eric Hufschmidt in his video Painful Deception
Mike does an excellent job providing documentation that proves this is not only likely, but that the remote control technology exists in full. He sources other 9/11 researchers who wrote on this technology using real documentation to back it up.
He has supported and sourced over 25 9/11 researchers in his book, including a few that Thorn has had on his show. Regardless of how anyone feels about Mike personally, his book is an absolute must have for any serious 9/11 researcher. The only book of equal or more importance is Paul Thompson’s TERROR TIMELINE.
I hope that answers what Thorn calls “the crux” issues on Ruppert and his research. I’m surprised Thorn was unaware of what I have laid out because, as he states in his recent piece on Ruppert:
“Here at WING TV, we have spent more time than any other venue trying to expose the truth about 9-11.”
But Victor Thorn, while interviewing my good friend Nico Haupt recently, said he first heard of Nico when he read The Lost War Drill, a good 9/11 report penned by Haupt in May of 2004. if Thorn & Wing TV “have spent more time than any other venue trying to expose the truth about 9-11,” how is it possible he had not heard of Nico Haupt until 2004? Nico has been a leader in the 9/11 research community since September 11, 2001 under his pen name of ewing2001, but has been operating under his real name since at least the summer of 2002 (likely earlier).
Perhaps Thorn is doing what anyone might do – trying to make his operation look as stellar as possible. If that was his goal he should have been much more careful in his research for this extremely inaccurate piece.
Michael Kane
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Green Party focusses on 9/11 Truth
B02159 Mon, 6 Dec 2004 20:04:11 -0800Will the Peace Movement Pursue the Truth About 9/11?
answer – NOPE!
They didn’t do it in the last three years (approaching four), they won’t do it now. What will the peace movement do?
Get in the streets between police barracades and chant and pollute the streets with wasteful signs that make us all feel good about being right while the war continues on and on.
Man, I’ve been at this computer a little too long tonight and my cynical side is taking over. I can’t help it though, to many great stories in the pressure cooker and my brain is fried.
Hopefully the peace movement gets hip to 9/11, but I’ve been in this for too long. I won’t hold my breathe, but I do love the Greens for seeing the achilles heal of this administration.
peace eternal
m>k<Rating:Avg: 5.00 Votes: 1
White House-linked clandestine "vote switching" software
B02130 Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:17:28 -0800EXPLOSIVE report from Wayne Madsen
...According to a notarized affidavit signed by Clint Curtis, while he was employed by the NASA Kennedy Space Center contractor, Yang Enterprises, Inc., during 2000, Feeney solicited him to write a program to “control the vote.” At the time, Curtis was of the opinion that the program was to be used for preventing fraud in the in the 2002 election in Palm Beach County, Florida. His mind was changed, however, when the true intentions of Feeney became clear: the computer program was going to be used to suppress the Democratic vote in counties with large Democratic registrations.
Amazing documentation laid out here – this may blow the 2004 Vote Fraud scandal out of the water!
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