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Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:21:22 PM PDT
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: [cia-drugs] Meeting on Extraordinary Proposed Pseudo-Copyright


"The proposed treaty would grant to a re-packager
rights to works whose copyrights are not held by the
re-packager. The works covered would include both
copyrighted works, and also public domain works. The
re-packager would be granted a new right against the
copyright holder and against the public ...this treaty is
being pushed by Yahoo and Murdoch"

Yahoo? Yahoo wants the right to claim copyright
on material posted to yahoo lists. Fascists.

I already disliked Yahoo for arbitrarily favoring
Microsoft by choosing to use a proprietary video
file format (including music videos) which is
incompatible with Apple and Linux browsers.

-Bob

Jay Sulzberger wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:40:11 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Cc: Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Friday 16 September 2005 Important Meeting on Extraordinary New
     Proposed Pseudo-Copyright Treaty

 An informal meeting on a proposed international treaty called the WIPO
 Webcasting Treaty will be held tomorrow in Washington DC.  The proposed
 treaty would grant to a re-packager rights to works whose copyrights are
 not held by the re-packager.  The works covered would include both
 copyrighted works, and also public domain works. The re-packager 
would be
 be granted a new right against the copyright holder and against the
 public.

 The treaty is formally a radical anti-copyright proposal in that a
 re-packager of my copyrighted works, by the mere act of re-packaging and
 publication on the Net, would have a right to my works.  Whether or 
not I
 had granted the repackager any rights, any powers, any permissions.  The
 new rights would be legally effective against me the author/copyright
 holder, and third parties.  The proposed treaty would hand to anybody 
who
 re-publishes my work, a pseudo-copyright in my work.  It would allow the
 creation of a pseudo-copyright in Shakespeare's works, should the
 repackager place Shakespeare's works on a website.

 I say pseudo-copyright because clearly, this is not a copyright under 
the
 laws of the USA, nor could such a new government created monopoly be
 lawfully legislated under the exclusive rights clause of the United 
States
 constitution.

 All those who support traditional copyright, all those who support 
freedom
 of the Net, all those who think that Yahoo can never get a copyright in
 their work by mere re-publication, please call Jule Sigall, Assistant
 Register of Copyrights, and ask to attend this meeting and state the 
case
 for copyright and the Net, the case against this absurd treaty.

 Jule Sigall's office telephone number is

 202 707-8350

 Below I quote, with personal material removed, a note from Manon Ress 
on the
 proposed treaty.

 oo--JS.


  Meeting:

  WHEN: Friday September 16, 2005  from 10:30 to 11:30am

  WHERE: Copyright Office, LM-403 of the Madison Building, Library of 
Congress,
  101 Independence Ave SE. Washington DC

  RE: WIPO Webasting treaty

   The informal meeting is with Jule Sigall (LOC), Mike Keplinger 
(PTO) and
 Marla
   Poor (LOC) at  Copyright Office, LM-403 of the Madison Building, 
Library of
   Congress from 10:30 to 11:30 101 Independence Ave SE Washington DC.

   None of the people involved really care nor want to understand how the
  internet
   is working and they are negotiating a treaty which will give 
webcasters (very
   broadly defined in the draft) exclusive rights to what they 
"webcast", ie
  text,
   images and combinations.  Basically everything we do on the net.  
They are
   seeking to add a layer of rights to works (already covered by 
copyright or in
   the public domain), rights that will give them economical power but 
also
   control of distribution of works.  The copyright owners should be 
against
 this
   new layer that will overlap with their rights... but as we 
discussed, they
   recently changed their tune and are now quiet about the treaty.

   Note that this treaty is being pushed by Yahoo and Murdoch 
(Commerce and the
   White house) and the US delegations has not had ONE public 
consultation on
 the
   topic. I have been asking for public consultations for months and 
just got
  word
   that we could have a small informal meeting.

   The US delegation (and the EU now) are pushing for inclusion of 
webcasters
  into
   a more general WIPO treaty "updating rights of broadcasters"  and 
the World
   intellectual property organization will be proposing a diplomatic 
conference
   for this year at the General Assembly on Sept 28, 2005.  Once a 
treaty is
  done,
   it will move to the US and it will be most difficult to change 
anything.

   Many of us thought that such a greedy and stupid move from the US 
and EU
   casters would go no where... but it looks as if it is on the fast 
track.
   However, It's not too late to listen to the US delegation 
"explanations",
 ask
   them a few questions and request a public consultation with RFC on 
the impact
   of giving webcasters exclusive rights on content distribution etc...

   If you need more information, let me know.  Jamie should be sending 
you his
   take on this  shortly.

   Thank you again

   manon


   ************************************************
   Manon Ress
   www.cptech.org

   Consumer Project on Technology in Washington, DC USA
   Tel.:  +1.202.332.2670, Ext 16 Fax: +1.202.332.2673

   Consumer Project on Technology in Geneva, 1 Route des  Morillons, 
CP 2100,
  1211
   Geneva 2, Switzerland. Tel: +41 22 791 6727

   Consumer Project on Technology in London, 24 Highbury Crescent, 
London, N5
  1RX,
   UK. Tel:+44(0)207 226 6663 ex 252. Mob:+44(0)790 386 4642. Fax: 
+44(0)207 354
   0607 



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