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### PASTOR CLAIMS BELT RIGHTS. The Massachusetts Supreme Court will decide
whether a minister has the right to spank his son with a leather belt. The
Rev. Donald Cobble Jr. claims the corporal punishment is sanctioned by the
Bible, and the government has no right to interfere by alleging the use of
the belt amounts to child abuse. Cobble was charged with abuse two years ago
after his preteen son, Judah, pleaded with a teacher not to send a note home
to his father because it would result in punishment with a belt. The teacher
instead notified the state Department of Social Services, and an investi-
gating social worker concluded the use of the belt amounted to abuse. ###

: Does your religion prescribe/proscribe physical punishment? Does beating
your kids do any good?


There are 2 issues raised here

1- the question of who decides the morality of society
   and the place of the family.

Since the essential part of the conspiracy has been to create hegels divine
state, I wont argue that one further.

The second issue what are the actual empirical answers surrounding spanking
The following is taken mostly from Herrenstein and wilsons ..crime and human
nature.


Essentially there are 2 modes of brining up children.

Warmth and discipline---they are independent and not interelated

Warmth defined as meeting the emotional and physical needs of the child
needs as and when required.

Discipline meeaning consistent rewards and punishments to promote certain
behaviours.
(arbitary beatings are not discipline)


Children brought up with warmth and disciline are well adjsuted good
citizens with a tendency to conformity
                    with warmth bot no discipline good natured egotists.

                    with discipline but no love- rebels/ subservient..the
angry young man

                          without discipline nor warmth- delinquents and
thugs


The degree to which people turn violent in later years is curvilinear(U
shaped) with those with no discipline or with 'extreme' discipline becoming
most violent.

Why if this is the science do most media promoted social scientists advocate
that spanking be
banned......well they are actually socialists and not scientists.


John

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