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"Howard R. Davis III" wrote:
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> nurev wrote:
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > Whether they be pro-gun or anti-gun, most people would
> > > acknowledge that mankind has certain, Inalienable Rights.
> >
> > Not at all. Rights are a conceptual legal concept. If everybody
> > plays along, you have rights. If most, or even many people don't
> > play along, you have bupkes. There is nothing inalienable about
> > legalisms in the real world.
> >
> > >
>
> The above is a most revealing statement. It shows that Nurev has the
> same understanding of rights as did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and all the
> other mass murders of the past (and of the future). They have no concept
> of the agreement among mature people to recognize the humanity of others
> and not treat them as resources to be exploited and killed if they get
> in the way. The very basis of the concept of "rights" comes from our
> innate understanding that others value their lives and we cannot take
> that life without doing harm to our very soul. (There has been some
> postings on this list by a retired military officer about the
> difficulties in training young men to kill which go into this more
> deeply). We look at ourselves and others and realize that others have a
> life which they value as much as we value our own. While Nurev may claim
> to wish to ban guns for the good of humanity, it is obvious from his
> replies that this is only a cover. His replies often show a deep hatred
> for any who disagree with him and often are made up of threats of harm
> (of course from others, not himself) to that person and an unseemly
> desire to see that threat of violence come to fruition.
>
> In an earlier post to this list, I suggested to those who wish to end
> the "culture of violence" that instead of repealing the 2nd amendment,
> that the first amendment might be modified to prohibit the showing of
> violence in the media. Did anyone one of those supposedly so concerned
> about the "culture of violence" respond? Of course not. They are not
> interested in this because they, in fact, are happy to see this violence
> in the media and in our society. They want to see this, because they
> know that it is necessary for their campaign to disarm the American
> people. Does anyone doubt that they are happy to hear of the killings?
> Look what Nurev writes later about the increasing number of people who
> might join his cause: "Oh yeah??? Wanna bet? This country has one, maybe
> two more massacres left before it becomes a groundswell". Does that not
> sound like someone who is looking forward to more such murders?
>
> On several occasions Nurev has threatened his critics with a future
> revolution of the people. He seems to enjoy fantasizing about a future
> revolution against the "capitalists" who he seems to fear will take over
> the government. (They haven't already?) Yet here he wants to take away
> their guns. What kind of sense does that make? Of course, Nurev probably
> has a nice useless government job and really doesn't care a bit about
> the "people".
>
> Howard Davis
>
Clap, Clap, clap, clap, clap,...Howard, this is a most thoughtful and accurate
analysis. I only wish I had said it.
Jim Norman
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