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nurev wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Eagle 1 wrote:
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > What is it with guns?
> > Guns don't kill anyone.
>
> You are a liar!
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Either support your argument with facts or stop wasting bandwith.
Jim Norman
>
>
> > The person who pulls the trigger is the responsible party here.
> > This is all about responsibility.
>
> No it's NOT about responsibility it's about unnecessary deaths.
Socialism all the way. You sir are espousing a communist/socialist point of view.
>
>
> Not about children getting their
> > hands on guns. Parents, teachers, and other care givers are
> > responsible for passing on valid information to children. Adults
> > who purchase guns are expected to act as responsible adults.
> > Unfortunately, we have come into a time where adults do not
> > believe that they are liable. How did this happen?
>
> That's not the point. I have been saying all along, that Americans
> are not mature enough to be trusted with guns. That is why they
> should be banned. The sooner the better.
>
> >
> > Here are some other thoughts:
> > Scenario #1:
> > I have a gas stove. I may choose to leave the gas on and asphyxiate
> > someone I don't like. What? Do we now ban natural gas,
> > because it became a 'lethal weapon'? The gas did the
> > dirty deed? So ban it... right?
> >
> > Scenario #2:
> > I see someone I decide I want to do away with... the only
> > way I can find to do this is to run them over with my car.
> > Ban the car, therefore, because it has become a lethal weapon...
> > right?
> >
> > Scenario #3:
> > I may choose to pick up a large rock,
> > and bludgeon someone to death.
> > The rock then becomes a lethal weapon.
> > Which did the damage? The rock?
> > The rock did the damage, therefore we outlaw rocks?
> > Right?
> >
> > This is obviously getting to the ludicrous. But I think anyone
> > can see the point to be made here. If guns are banned, what
> > will it be next? Kitchen knives? Automobiles? Rocks?
> > C'mon!
>
> Yeah, I see the point. You are a phony and a liar. These examples are
> idiotic in the extreme. Rocks and cars were not designed to kill.
> Anything can be used to kill, but guns are for killing. A " Slippery
> Slope " argument does not really stand up to actual gun deaths.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Slandering your opponent is NOT a effective debating technique. It only exposes
the fact that you have run out of substance. It also illustrates a lack of
respect or manners.
>
>
> >
> > Banning guns is not going to resolve the problem. Locks on guns are
> > an absolute waste of money as well as time. If someone is breaking
> > into my house, with the intent and immediate threat to kill a member
> > of my household, I don't want to have to fumble around to find a key,
> > to unlock my defense. I want my defense immediate. And since I'm
> > not in the habit of wearing a bullet proof vest day in and day out, the
> > only way to fight back is to fight fire with fire. Fire power, that is.
>
> No gun locks? No guns. You guys are cutting your own throats and your
> playing right into our hands. You are not in a position to argue about
> restrictions any more. Unless you clowns get smart, you will lose your
> guns. Total ban!
Assuming that through a Con Con, the Federal Constitution is amended to eliminate
guns, how long do
you think YOUR liberty would last? (Assuming you desire liberty.)
>
>
> >
> > Safe use of guns will help, but still will not resolve the problem overall.
> > Leaving the Constitution alone, and as it stands is what the forefathers
> > intended; bearing arms for personal protection, not for murder.
>
> There will be amendments to the 2nd Amendment. It is outdated.
>
>
Not without a Constitutional Convention.
> > Banning guns is definitely not the answer.
> >
> > Education and RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR is.
>
> Yeah right that's the solution. And it's much easier to change
> society's
> behavior than to ban guns. Right?
I think you got it now. Keep that thought in your mind.
>
>
> >
> > Laws, if there are any to be improved upon, should be sending a very
> > serious message to the general public that irresponsible use of firearms
> > is not acceptable and is not tolerated in a civil society.
> > Following through with appropriate penal codes should be the mandate.
>
> Guns will be banned because gun nuts live in the past. You are my best
> ally.
There are no gun nuts. There is only ANTI-gun nuts. And you are the socialist
poster child.
Keep up the good work!
Jim Norman
>
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> Joshua2
>
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