-Caveat Lector- > Ashley Rye wrote: > > > > -> IUFO Mailing List > > > > We're going to see Stage Two. I would say to people: watch > > the Chinese hierarchy very carefully because people who I > > trust, indeed, people who have been working on the inside for > > many years, tell me again and again, there's a China card > > waiting to be played as part of the process of creating a > > conflict big enough to turn, in one conflict, NATO into a > > world army to stop any more conflicts of this kind. > > > > When you have the millennium mentality building up of "Come > > on, we've come to the end of a millennium. Look at the > > horrors of this millennium; let's start again", you have a > > global mentality that is very open to change, and there's > > nothing wrong with that except that if you control the forces > > of communication to the global mass-mind, you can control and > > manipulate what is perceived to be positive change, when > > actually it is only change that relates to the agenda that > > you want to introduce. > > > > I actually wrote in The Biggest Secret about keeping an eye > > on China and the China card, and the next thing I know > > they've bombed the Chinese Embassy. Not only that, I think it > > was Time magazine, about three weeks ago or so, did a virtual > > whole edition demonizing China as the new monster and danger > > to the world. So I think we're going to see something like > > that unfold, and it will all be part of this recurring daily > > technique which happens in the local area, in the states, in > > the country, and in the world, of creating problems and > > offering the solutions to the problems. > > > > It is the key technique. If people would only get street-wise > > to this, they would start to see presidential announcements > > and terrorist bombs and wars in a very, very different light. > > > > I would just end the answer by saying this: The key question > > to ask in this situation, I would suggest, is: Who benefits? > > Who benefits from this Oklahoma City bombing? Who benefits > > from the wars? And who benefits from me believing the version > > of these events that I'm being asked to accept? And, again > > and again, when you ask that question of who benefits, the > > answer is, invariably, anyone who wants to further central > > power. > > > > Martin: What is "The Agenda" that you refer to in your new > > book? > > > > Icke: When you're getting into the lower fourth dimension and > > this level of it, I'm still trying to understand more and > > more clearly what the overall agenda is. It seems that, > > somehow, this lower fourth-dimensional consciousness, > > entities, whatever you want to call them, have actually > > caught themselves in a prison. They're in the lower fourth > > dimension because they are resonating to that frequency > > because of their state of being. They're into control, > > they're into manipulation of fear, and anyone who manipulates > > fear is, themselves, entrapped in fear. And as a result of > > that, they cannot get out of that frequency range by going > > upwards, because you can only do that by changing your mental > > and emotional state which leads to your vibrational frequency > > increasing, which allows you to gravitate to higher levels. > > > > It could well be-and I'm certainly being led in this > > direction at the moment-that they are trying to get out of > > that lower fourth dimension, or expand out of it, by coming > > into the third dimension and working and controlling three > > dimensionally. Certainly, even if you only take a > > three-dimensional level, the agenda is for these bloodlines, > > which compared-this is the point, Rick-compared with the > > global population, are not large in number. They've expanded > > out of the Near and Middle East, particularly, but other > > places, too. And by this manipulation of always being at the > > top of the pyramids-the pyramids of banking, the pyramids of > > politics, the pyramids of business, the pyramids of medicine, > > and all this stuff-they have created a situation in which > > they sit atop these compartmentalized pyramids and get the > > vast majority of humanity to advance their agenda without > > most of them even realizing there is an agenda being > > advanced. > > > > This is the only way it could be done. This is why divide and > > rule is vital. > > > > This is why the human herd, which, unfortunately, we've > > allowed ourselves to become, actually polices itself by > > making it a crime to be different. Anyone who expresses a > > different view, anyone who expresses a different lifestyle, > > most of the rest of the herd jump on them and say "You can't > > do that" and make life difficult for them, ridicule them, > > condemn them or whatever. > > > > So what these bloodlines have done, sitting atop these > > pyramidal peaks, is actually to have manipulated the mass of > > the pyramid to fight itself, to war itself, to police > > itself-hence, divide and rule. It seems that they have had an > > agenda, which because it's focus is the lower fourth > > dimension, it's had a very different version of time to us-it > > can see down the three-dimensional timeline much further than > > we can-and it has actually had a long-term agenda, leading to > > the time we're going into now, to actually have global > > control through these global institutions of world > > government, world central banking, world currency, world > > army, world centralization of all things. > > > > But, of course, if there's only a few of you and you need to > > control a large number of people, then it is absolutely vital > > that you centralize power. There are just too many areas of > > power and thought, and areas where people are making their > > own decisions about their own lives. You just can't control > > that without organization. You have to centralize it. And the > > more you centralize it, the more power those few have over > > the masses, which is why global centralization of power (and > > the institutions) is what they've been working through all > > this time. And if you look at the incessant movement over > > these thousands of years, I'm talking about-it was slow to > > start with, and it just got faster and faster and faster as > > they've gotten control of more and more things. > > > > Thousands of years ago there was, to a certain extent, > > diversity, because people were all over the world in > > different cultures that were-through distance and > > transportation reasons and other things, apart from the > > elite-I would suggest, disconnected from each other. And > > then, the more that time has moved on, the more these > > cultures have been able to be connected by the emergence of > > technology, etc., the more it's been possible to control the > > world centrally. And they've now reached the point, because > > of the technology and the computer systems that exist today, > > where they can actually control everything from a central > > point. And that's what they've been aiming toward all this > > time. > > > > So, in Europe now, where I'm sitting, we have the European > > Union, where a few bureaucrats in Brussels are dictating the > > legislation to, basically, the whole of Western Europe now. > > The European Union laws overpower national laws. If a > > national law is at odds with European Union law, then the > > national law has to go. That's where we're at here in Europe > > now. > > > > We have a single currency, which is being expanded to be the > > single currency of the whole of Europe. We have a Central > > Bank in Frankfurt, where Hitler was going to put his had he > > won the war. And we have a situation in which the > > centralization of power in Europe has turned into, literally, > > a fascist state. The fasces, the symbol in the Roman Empire, > > from which we get the word fascist, is actually a bundle of > > rods tied very tightly together around an axe with an axe > > head projecting at the top. In other words, you tie together > > individual expressions and you rule them from the top with > > one law, one source of control. Well, the fasces symbol is > > actually-you actually cannot describe the European Union more > > simply and profoundly than with that symbol-it is a fascist > > state we have in Europe. > > > > I was reading only the other day, I think it was the Miami > > Herald or something like that, when I was over in the Bahamas > > area, that they've now said that they want a "Free Trade" > > area-which, of course, is what the European Union came out > > of-from the tip of South America to the tip of North America, > > by the year 2005. > > > > I just spent a lot of time in Canada recently and they are > > artificially depressing the value of the Canadian dollar so > > that when they offer-this is already happening in Canada, > > Rick, at a legislative level-when they offer Canadians the > > opportunity to take the American dollar as their currency, > > then the Canadians will, overwhelmingly, jump at it because > > the value of that currency is much higher than the Canadian > > currency. So this is the manipulation going on now because > > they want the American dollar to be the currency of the whole > > of the Americas. > > > > Both George Bush and Bill Clinton-who are supposed to be > > opponents, but of course aren't-have both called for NAFTA to > > go from the tip of North America to the tip of South America, > > and that's the stage before they turn the whole of the > > American continent into their version of the European Union, > > which we already have here, in which a few bureaucrats at a > > central point would dictate the laws for the whole of the > > Americas. And that, the European Union, the American Union, > > they want, and something called the Pacific Union, which is > > being evolved out of a free-trade area called APEC [Asia > > Pacific Economic Cooperation], that's the next level of > > control below the world government that they want. And under > > that will come nations and regions that will have no power at > > all. > > > > Interestingly, when I was in Australia, literally a few weeks > > ago, talking, the big story was a sales tax that was being > > introduced to increase basic things like the price of food in > > Australia. And, of course, Australia is not a big population, > > I mean, it should be a self-contained unit that would > > actually not be at the mercy of the world's system-but it is, > > because that's the way it's structured. And when the > > politicians in government were asked, "Why on Earth do we > > have to have this tax?" the reply was, "We cannot act within > > a trading area" what's the word, "a trading group, without > > this tax." In other words, the tax is part of the submission > > and submergence of Australia into the APEC free trade area, > > which is exactly what is happening in Europe, and is rapidly > > happening in the Americas-and that is, basically, "The > > Agenda". > > > > But the key to The Agenda, also, is to introduce the > > microchip into the population. And, again, all over the world > > these microchips are just waiting until we have been properly > > manipulated into seeing them as a good idea: > > > > "Get your kids microchipped at birth." > > > > "Well, you'll never get mugged for your credit cards or your > > cash anymore." > > > > "Have a little microchip with all of your financial details." > > > > "Oh, hey, what a great idea to have all of your medical > > records on a little microchip, because then, if you have an > > accident or anything, then doctors have access to your > > medical records just by reading the chip." > > > > All of these things around the world, I have seen as part of > > the process of preparing us, as they've done by using > > microchips in domestic animals, to be microchipped. > > Interesting story, Rick, this, I was approached about a year > > ago-I think I've told you this before-through a third party > > to meet a guy who's been working for the CIA as a scientist > > for a long, long time-most of his working life; he's a genius > > in his particular area. And he jointed the CIA because he > > thought he was serving his country, as many people do-just > > because you're working for the CIA doesn't mean you're part > > of this. > > > > And he said that eventually he started to realize that they > > were using his genius for anything but positive reasons. They > > wanted his genius for very, very malevolent reasons. And he > > started to understand that there was this agenda that was > > unfolding behind the scenes that people didn't see. > > > > When he started rebelling against the way that his work was > > being used, he said he woke up one morning and he had missing > > time. He remembers leaving his home, but then it's all a > > blank. And then the next thing he remembers is waking up in a > > type of medical room. When he got his faculties back, he > > realized that he had a see-through sache, as we call them in > > England-a plastic see-through pouch-thing-they call them > > "patches", apparently, in the trade. > > > > It was on his chest and in this patch was a yellow-gold > > liquid. He opened his shirt, as he's telling me this story, > > and there it was. What he said was, they had manipulated his > > body to need this drug to survive, and if the drug was > > stopped, he would start to die. And it takes about three > > months, apparently, a very painful and horrible death. > > > > This patch has to be replaced every 72 hours, and if he > > rebels or refuses to do anything they say, they don't replace > > the patch and he starts to die. They've done it to him once, > > when he rebelled again. Now, apparently, he tells me, there > > are files at CIA headquarters which have identified > > scientists and people like that all over America. The same > > will be happening in other countries, too, of course. > > > > They decide whether the patch is to be replaced, whether the > > scientist, at this point, is indispensable or dispensable, > > and all these things. He knows that, in the end, what they do > > is, when they've gleaned all the knowledge that you can give > > them, then they don't replace the patch because they don't > > want you going around talking about it. > > > > They also do mind control on them, as well, which kind of > > puts a mirror, a scan, across their mind, like a veil, so > > they don't remember much of it anyway when they leave these > > projects. > > > > What he said to me was a number of things. First of all he > > said, big time, watch China, because that's part of The > > Agenda. The other thing he said-as you well know, as much as > > anyone-the technology has existed for a very long time to > > cure cancer. The technology has existed for a very long time > > to give us all the free energy we need, without utility > > bills. And he said another thing interesting, which was in > > his area of expertise; he said, "You know, the technology > > exists to create abundant growth in deserts, without water, > > using magnetics." He said, "At it's most optimum, you can see > > the crops grow like a time-lapse photograph." There is no > > need for anyone to be hungry, anywhere in the world. > > > > But the point of telling you that story, apart from the > > interest of it, is that he said, basically, "If people are > > going to say no to just one thing, please tell them to say no > > to the microchip." He said this is because the microchip is > > not just about electronic tagging, as some conspiracy people > > think. Yes, it's about that, on one level, and it's certainly > > not just about making it easier to find your child. He said > > people don't realize the level of technology that exists. > > > > He said the real use of the microchip in the population is to > > give external control of people's thinking and emotional > > processes through external signals and pulses. He said these > > microchips, once they're inside you, the pulses that they > > send out to them-and a lot of the Star Wars thing is all, > > actually, the veil for the technology to control these > > microchips-they will be able to externally make you > > aggressive or docile, sexually aroused, sexually suppressed, > > suppress your intellectual state so that you stop thinking to > > your capacity. And the idea is to literally turn humanity > > into a race of externally manipulated robots. > > > > We are now in a situation where these microchips exist and > > they're just waiting for, probably, "problem, reaction, > > solution" to create a situation in which the chips become > > accepted. > > > > And, it's interesting, when I spoke in South Africa last > > year, I got a heck of a lot of publicity very soon after I > > arrived because they didn't realize what I was saying, and a > > lot of these things were live, of course. So, I was out there > > talking, and before they realized what I was saying, in a > > matter of three or four days, I talked live for 25 minutes to > > 29 African countries, on one occasion. As a result of this > > there was tremendous interest. Winnie Mandela came to one of > > my talks. I had a private meeting with P. W. Botha, the > > former President of South Africa. I'll tell you a story about > > him in a second. There was tremendous interest. > > > > One of the journalists who'd interviewed me on one of their > > main Current Affairs programs called me about two days later > > and he said, "I've had a very funny chap calling me." He > > rang, he said, and he didn't see the show but someone had > > told him about it. And he said he demanded to know how I, > > Icke:, knew about the microchip plan. > > > > What it turned out is that this guy got the wrong end of the > > stick. He'd got the impression that I'd gone on this Current > > Affairs program and talked about the South Africa microchip > > program. I knew nothing about it, at the time. What I was > > talking about, of course, was the microchip agenda, globally. > > Anyway, this guy, as a result of thinking I'd talked about > > it, blurted out some things because he was saying, "No one > > should know about this! Everyone's been sworn to secrecy!" > > > > And the journalist said, "What are you talking about?" > > > > And the caller said there was a company in South Africa which > > had been producing the microchips for the South African > > people, and they'd all been sworn-Official Secrets Act and > > all this stuff-not to talk about it and that the agenda that > > they were working toward should not be known by the South > > African people. This came out as a result of him thinking I'd > > blurted it all out, and I hadn't-I'd just talked about the > > global thing. So these things are happening in every country. > > > > But the P.W. Botha thing is interesting. This is a nice one, > > and it's never come out before. I mentioned it in The Biggest > > Secret, I think. Never came out, to my knowledge. Winnie > > Mandela came to one of my talks in Johannesburg, I mean, a > > thousand people turned up! They were going crazy for it in > > South Africa. After a lot of publicity, I got a call from the > > daughter of P. W. Botha, who was President during the > > apartheid years when Mandela was involved in the '80s, with > > F.W. de Klerk, and it was de Klerk who lead Mandela out and > > all that stuff, which again was all part of The Agenda. > > > > It just turned South Africa from overt control to covert > > control-and of course, the world has walked away now, no > > longer paying attention-with the same people, the Oppenheimer > > family, running South Africa as they did before. It's just > > that no one is exposing it anymore because South Africa is > > free, you know, I read it in the newspaper somewhere. > > > > His daughter said that Botha wanted to meet me. Now, as > > synchronicity would have it, I was talking at a small place, > > the only small place I spoke at, actually-I did the cities, > > mainly-and not far from down the coast from Port Elizabeth, > > and it just so happened that fifteen minutes from the point > > of the talk lived P. W. Botha in retirement. So I went to see > > him. > > > > He was talking to me-I found it really bizarre, Rick, to be > > honest! I'm sitting there talking to the former President of > > South Africa, and he's asking me about the way in which this > > manipulation works. He's naming all the names like Kissinger > > and Carrington and Rockefeller, and all these people who > > manipulated South Africa, but he hadn't genuinely seen that > > actually South Africa was just one element in a global > > agenda. He thought they just had it in for South Africa. > > > > When you realize that you can get to that level and people > > still don't bloody know what's going on, the > > compartmentalization just takes your breath away. > > > > We started talking about the Rothschilds-this is the > > point-and he said, "Oh, yeah, I had an interesting meeting > > with the Rothschilds. In the 1980s I was asked to host a > > meeting with the English Rothschilds in Capetown." > > > > He said the Rothschilds told him that there was money in > > Swiss bank accounts, great wealth in Swiss bank accounts, > > which once belonged to German Jews, and was available for > > investment in South Africa, if they could agree on interest > > rates. In other words, this Rothschild family, who are held > > up as like bastions of Judaism, and supporters and defenders > > of Jewish people, have actually been lending money in Swiss > > bank accounts that once belonged to German Jews, and making a > > fortune from it, ever since the war. And P. W. Botha can > > vouch for this because he was offered it, in the 1980s in > > Cape Town. > > > > This is what Jewish people really ought to get wise to-that > > the Rothschilds are not on their side, not in the least, and > > they have manipulated Jewish people as much as anyone else. > > And, of course, one of the funders of Adolf Hitler, which > > starts to make things even more clear and starts to fit the > > picture even more clearly, why the banking family that funded > > and bankrolled Hitler, to a large extent, would, after the > > war, be having control of the money from German Jews in Swiss > > bank accounts, to the point where they could use it for their > > own gain ever since. And this, of course, is the money that > > came to light in the last couple of years and has caused this > > great scandal about people being denied their money. > > > > Martin: You've stated that you've observed people waking up > > around the world. In the final analysis, what does that mean? > > > > Icke: It seems that there is a cycle, which we're coming > > toward the end of, which is acting-it's a vibrational cycle, > > in terms of it's effect on the Earth's field-which is acting > > like a spiritual alarm clock. It's beginning to wake people > > up from what I call the "terrestrial trance", the spiritual > > slumber is so long. > > > > And this is why people close to Kissinger during the '70s > > have told me that it was Kissinger and his cronies who > > actually created what we call the New-Age Movement, an > > important point, this, vital. When I've said this, people > > have said, "Well, that's ridiculous!" Is it, really? > > > > There's a vibrational cycle going on which is waking people > > up. Now, apart from going to the Sun and switching it off, or > > changing it's vibrational cycle, whatever, you have one other > > alternative-and that is to take awakening people, and put > > them in a position, preferably about a foot below the > > ceiling, where awakening people-on one level-are not going to > > become a danger to your agenda. And what they've done is, > > they're taking the spiritually awakening people and they've > > put them on the ceiling, overwhelmingly. Not all, by any > > means, but great, great numbers of them. And in that place > > they are not involved in spirituality as change, they're > > involved in spirituality as escapism, spirituality as denial, > > spirituality as an excuse not to get your hands dirty in the > > three-dimensional world. They are in complete denial-most of > > those people, not all by any means, but most-of the fact that > > this manipulation is going on. > > > > I keep hearing this, "Oh, it's negative. We shouldn't be > > talking about this." And then, on the other side, those who > > have identified the problem in America are overwhelmingly the > > Christian Patriot Movement, not exclusively by any means, but > > overwhelmingly that's the focus of so much of it. And they > > think that spirituality, as expressed metaphysically in the > > New-Age stuff, is the bloody devil. > > > > So what the Illuminati have done magnificently is detach the > > metaphysical understanding of how we can get out of here from > > the three-dimensional, street-wise awareness of the > > manipulation. So, they've taken the problem and the solution > > and they've got one to identify the problem, and they've got > > the solution to be a denial there's a problem to solve, if > > you follow me. > > > > Martin: I do. > > > > Icke: And they've done it brilliantly. And this is why > > Kissinger put out some of the New-Age big names, and still > > controls many of them who are still persuading people that, > > in effect, the cavalry is going to come. And, so often, when > > you look at New-Age thought, it is merely another way of > > expressing a religious bloody thought. You know, instead of > > giving your mind away to dieties or whatever, you're giving > > your mind away to gurus or to bloody external entities and > > stuff. > > > > I'm not saying that we should not look at this information, > > but we have to filter it through our own "truth detector" and > > come to our own truth, rather than having us be told by > > someone else how we should live our lives and how we should > > think and how we should see the world. > > > > And in so many areas the New-Age movement has become just > > another form of religion and control. And I'll tell you what, > > in areas of the New-Age movement that I've experienced, you > > go against the "party line" and you see what happens. You > > know, it's just like going against the party line of > > Christianity or going against the party line of the Pope-you > > get jumped on by the majority. > > > > Visit Ash's Mural Gallery at: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3517/Ash/index.html > > > > -> Send "subscribe iufo " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -> Posted by: Ashley Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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