Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers

[Rory Winter]

-Caveat Lector-   Blue Crystal Monkey, Kin 51, Electric Moon, 7th Year of Mayan Prophecy.   Joshua2: OK, you're on!   I'm sure you'll agree that when the Dalai Lama succeeeds the Pope most X'tians would have gone beyond their prejudices about the Buddhist World. Maybe not in this civilization ... but that shouldn't stop us as individuals from seeing Life on Planet Earth from a more detached place in Space/Time.   You and I are both using a medium -- Internet -- through which we can communicate in a way that has never been available to humans in recorded history. Despite all the fanaticism and sheer gangsterism creating havoc on this Planet, the Internet has the potential to create a level of awareness which truly brings us closer to Marshall McLuhan's Global Village.   Conspiracy Research (however eccentric it may sound sometimes) plays a vital part in building that awareness; eg. Linda Minor's recent contributions re. the CFR/RIIA (and don't forget the Trilateral Commission) concern private, unelected organizations against which ordinary folk have no protection even if more of us knew just how much they paralyze and poison the democratic process, turning it into a weapon against humanity and the Planet's biosystems.   Speaking of weapons, I don't think anyone on this List is speaking about converting Jews to Christianity. So why get so upset at someone's speculations about a former Orthodox Rabbi's reported statements? Challenge it if you wish but why with so much aggression and sectarianism?   I recently attended a meeting at a local Jewish synagogue where the subject of debate concerned the possibility of reconciliation between Jews and Christians. Reconciliation and forgiveness doesn't seem a bad idea whatever our faiths -- after all, we're stuck on the same Planet for at least one lifetime!   ... Besides which, as long as humans use religion (or whatever else rationale) to shout at or kill each other we're always going to be prey to gangster-oriented politicians and their paymasters who surreptitiously manipulate events and re-process 'the real world', through their strangle-hold on the media, to suit their own interests.               --Support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications-- <www.unmetered.org.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers > -Caveat Lector- > > > Rory Winter wrote: > > > > Re our Yiddisher friend, Joshua2, with no sense of humor may I suggest we > > start a Campaign to nominate the Dalai Lama to replace the Pope? Oi vay! What > > a brilliant way to start the X'tian Millenium! > > Here's the deal Rory. When the Dali Lama becomes Pope, the Jews will > convert. I'll bet a nickel on it. > > Joshua2 > > > > > > >            --Support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications-- > >                             <www.unmetered.org.uk> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 1:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers > > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > > > Nicola Molloy wrote: > > > > > > > >  -Caveat Lector- > > > > > > > > http://www.audiocentral.com/rshows/6640/archives98.html > > > > > > > > That was interesting Michael. > > > > > > snip> > > > > > > > hmmm Now this could turn out interesting > > > > I have heard, from someone who was originally Jewish living in Israel > > > > that more than half the Orthodox Rabbis living in Israel have recognized > > > > Jesus as the Messiah and will all announce it together when they think > > > > it is the right time. > > > > Nicky > > > > > > Look, I don't really care what you believe, but this statement above is > > > so absurd that it only indicates how desperately naive you are. Who ever > > > gave you that information is lying to you, and you are too ignorant to > > > recognize it. > > > > > > If you would have said that half the Reform, or Reconstructionist, or > > > New Age Rabbis have recognized Jesus as the Messiah, though unlikely, > > > that MIGHT enter into the realm of possibility. But to make that claim > > > for orthodox Rabbis in Israel is completely off the wall. This is half > > > baked Christian propaganda based entirely on wishful thinking. It's like > > > saying the Dali Lama will be the next Pope. One would have to be totally > > > ignorant of both religions to think this possible. > > > > > > Believe what you want, but leave the Jews out of it. Jews have no interest > > > in Jesus at all. If you Christians are waiting for a group to convert before > > > Jesus returns, I suggest you try the South Koreans. The Jews never will. > > > > > > Joshua2 > > > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > > > ========== > > > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting > > propagandic > > > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters > > > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and > > outright > > > frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects > > > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > > > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to > > readers; > > > be wary of what you read. 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Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. 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