-Caveat Lector-
>From Newshawk:
>>He asked me if I had been to Ian Goddard's website, to which I replied
yes. He pointed out that Ian gets a lot of his information from Gordon
Novell.
I said, "Gordon Novell? He goes all the way back to the Kennedy
assassination!" (My dad said he did a double take when I said that.)
Anyway he said that Novell was considered a sometimes reliable, and
sometimes iffy source. I told him that I had always heard that, and
that is true of many of these people, you just have to check the sources
and have a good "built-in bulls--t" detector. And one last thing about
the Goddard site, I told him that Ian had the "shape charge" info on his
website (the same info that McNulty was touting in his speech) , was
skeptical and took it down, and in view of recent information was being
asked to re-post it. But it seems as if it's just kook conspiracy,
unless McNulty says it.…<<
So we find out at last--this is one and the same Gordon Novel. And this,
from
a deja.com search:
>Subject: Re: Gordon Novel - From N.O. to Waco?
>From: doug weldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 06 October 1999 01:36 PM EDT
Novel was the guy who had the photo of the Laundry truck that was used to
transport muntions from the Houma Louisiana explosives of Slumber J (CIA) to
the staging areas at the training camps near Mandeville.
Garrison knew about that photo and tried to get it, but the CIA ran
interference for Novel and thwarted Garrison's efforts to extradict him to
La.
Novel "sold" the photo to Walter Sheridan...
Had Garrison known that there was a LAUNDRY TRUCK parked at the pedestrian
cross walk on Elm street directly behind Kennedy at the time of the
shooting, he may have pressed harder to get Novel back to La.
Walt
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>> Forum: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: Gordon Novel - From N.O. to Waco?
Date: 1999/10/06
Author: Jane Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RicBissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi Jane,
>
> Thanks for posting this. It's fascinating.
>
> >There’s an interesting story regarding some of the key evidence in the
film
> >as shown by the FLIR (Forward-Looking Infra Red) videotape made by the
FBI.
> >We had that tape in our possession for 18 months before we were informed
> >about the very special information that was included in that videotape.
>
> How did McNulty get the FLIR tape, do you know?
No, and I doubt that any of us will ever know; however, recall that this
FLIR tape
was shown at the Congressional Hearings in the summer of '95. Maybe some
sympathetic aide slipped him a copy. At the time of the those hearings,
none of
our efficient Congressmen bothered to have the FLIR tape reviewed for
themselves,
and relied on the interpretation of the FBI. Then, in August of 95, McNulty
is paid
a visit and informed of what he's really got, and the rest is history.
>
>
> >GLASS: And the gentlemen that made you aware of it – his name is?
> >
> >McNULTY: Gordon Novel.
>
> Very interesting. Our old pal.
>
>
> >And Gordon was helpful, particularly in the area of passing that
> >information along. The problem with people like Gordon Novel is that
they
> >become marginalized and easily dismissed by the government because for
all
> >intents and purposes he is a little on the nut cake side,
>
> This sounds vaguely familiar somehow, doesn't it? ;-)
>
>
> >GLASS: Well, here we have the former director of the Central
Intelligence
> >Agency dying under very odd circumstances—
> >
> >McNULTY: After providing us with some very crucial information in a
major
> >case. And then the information was provided to us with the explicit
proviso
> >that these gentlemen who were presenting this information were
interested
> >in obtaining the rights to the film.
>
> The FLIR tapes were taken by the FBI. Why weren't they the property of
the US
> government?
They were.
>
>
> >McNULTY: They wanted the negative, the print, and the whole enchilada.
And
> >I asked them what they were interested in it for. And their response was
> >that they were interested in it on the basis of, shall we say, using it
as
> >a club to beat another agency in line that had been expanding their
> >operations on CIA’s turf, vis-a-vi the FBI. And its foreign expansion of
> >operations into what had been traditionally CIA turf.
>
> There's a motive, at least.
>
> There's something odd about this story. First of all, let me say I have
seen
> *Waco: The Rules of Engagement* and the FLIR tapes, and I do believe that
it
> clearly shows automatic weapons firing into the compound while the tanks
were
> bulldozing and destroying it. But the fingerpritns of the CIA and CBS on
this
> tape are starting to make me nervous.
>
> Why would the CIA kill Colby for telling McNulty about the tape, all the
while
> claiming they want the tape to be seen so as to discedit the FBI? That
> doesn't make sense.
Perhaps not to *show* the tape, but to use it as leverage. That's only
speculation
on my part.
>
>
> >GLASS: Was this request made as an official request from the Central
> >Intelligence Agency?
> >
> >McNULTY: Was their documentation and official photographs of the
> >individuals presenting themselves with ID cards etc., etc? No
>
> That's always the way, isn't it? Some people on this newsgroup would do
well
> to take a lesson from this.
>
>
> >GLASS: Had you given them that film, was it your understanding that the
> >film never would have been seen?
> >
> >McNULTY: They made it clear that if we took the offer that we would be
no
> >longer responsible for the film. They would take care of it and the
public
> >would never see it.
>
>
> Again, how did McNulty get the film in the first place? I know it was
shown at
> some of the Congressional hearings regarding Waco. Did McNulty somehow
get the
> tape through Congress?
See above
>
>
> >McNULTY: Indeed. And so one has to ask the question, the deep
philosophical
> >question, "What the hell is going on here?"
> >
> >GLASS: Well, what the hell is going on?
>
>
> I'd like to know that myself. ;-)
>
>
> - /< /\ /> -
Ric,
I can email you the entire interview. I didn't want to post it here,
because it's off topic. I
just thought it was interesting about Gordon Novel. We lose track of these
people and
they turn up in the strangest places.
If you want the interview, let me know. McNulty goes into detail about one
of BD's being
caught up in the tread of one of the tanks. Congress asked for the damage
reports on the
tanks and was told they'd been lost. The FBI videotaped the raid on 04-19
and was requested
by Congress. It was told the tape was blank by the FBI.
Press secretary Joe Lockheart was asked if the Prez had ever signed a waiver
of the Posse
Comitas Act allowing the use of military force against the BD's. Lockheart
said emphatically
"no". Then some resourceful reporter went back and looked at some videotape
of old press
conferences at the time of the raid, and then press secretary, Mike McCurry,
told the press there
was a waiver on Clinton's desk.
Regards,
Jane.
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