-Caveat Lector-
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Bard wrote:
>Man was given privileges that no other creation had been given before. God
>gave man dominion over all creatures of the earth. Man was given the right
>of self-determination and thus could do whatever he desired.
This is totally unscriptual.
According to Genesis, man was given STEWARDSHIP over all creation....
which is vastly different than being able to 'do whatever he desired'....
If man could truly 'do whatever he desired', the Bible would have stopped
right there, and there would have been no need for other chapters....
If man could truly 'do whatever he desired', then God would have had no
reason to have created The Great Flood to wipe most of humanity off of
the earth...since humanity was doing whatever they desired....
Sodom and Gomorrah did whatever they desired, too....
>He alone was in
>control of his destiny. Angels, on the other hand, are created to serve God
>and man. Rebelling against God means instant removal from heaven. There are
>no second chances. Angels can not repent after rebelling against God.
There is no scriptual basis for this claim, either...
Point of fact, fallen angels ARE given chances to repent time and time
again....
And man was created to serve God, not himself....
>God, as He normally did in the afternoon, came down in the garden to speak
>with Adam and Eve. They heard Him walking toward them and hid themselves. He
>called out to Adam, "Adam where are you?" Adam replied, "We're naked and
>were hiding from You." God said, "Who told you that you are naked? Did you
>eat from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?" Adam replied, "This
>woman that you gave me made me do it."
"Made" him do it? Presumably there weren't any firearms in those days,
so Eve couldn't have held a gun to Adam's head and forced him to take a
bite of the fruit...and there's nothing in the scripture to suggest she
had ANY sort of weapon at all...
So it's not like she held a knife to his throat and forced pieces of
fruit down his gullet....
According to this MYTH, Eve just says "Hey, take a bite, it tastes really
good", and Adam willingly complies without an argument....
And then doesn't take responsibility for his own actions by trying to
shift his own 'sin' onto Eve....
They both disobeyed a command, and both are EQUALLY responsible...
It took a metaphysical entity which the Bible describes as having been
2nd only to God in Heaven before his fall, to tempt Eve....it only took
another human, one which the Bible implies as secondary to the primary
primate because she was formed from his rib, to tempt Adam...
So who had the stronger intellect, the stronger moral fiber? Seems to me
it was Eve, since it took more to tempt her than it took to tempt Adam...
Which begs the question of what does this MYTH have to do with Conspiracy
Research, anyways?
If you choose to believe a MYTH is real, that's your right, but you have
no right to foist your superstitions onto the rest of society, and expect
it to comply with your misogyny....
>Because of their disobedience to God's commandment, they were punished for
>their actions. God said to Eve, "I will greatly multiply your sorrow and
>your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children;
So do most mammals. Why do, say, cows 'share Eve's curse'?
Hardly seems fair, from a 'just God', does it?
>child instead of me. Eve was created to be equal to Adam and he treated her
>as such. Her sin destroyed this equality and established the husband as the
>head of the family--a fact that has been ignored in recent history.
This only applies to those superstitious souls such as you who accept
myths as historical fact...again, your right...but you have no right to
impose your superstitions on the rest of us.
In fact, to apply this thread to Conspiracy Theory, perhaps we should
discuss the conspiracy of the Christian power structure to impose their
mythology as FACT on society over the centuries, to foist their form
of superstition on the rest of the world, as a justification for their
continual genocide against all who believe differently (or choose not
to believe at all)....
June ;-)
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