-Caveat Lector-

It *is* in Second Isaiah, but I can't remember the exact verse. The verse
forms one of the most striking passages in Handel's *Messiah*: "He was a man
of sorrows and acquainted with grief." It's part of the "suffering servant"
theme, which many modern scholars believe refers not to a specific person
but rather to Eretz Israel, the ever-suffering Land of Israel itself.
Evangelical theologians, of course, generally consider the "suffering
servant" passages to apply to Jesus Christ.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:26 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 99-12-14 13:52:52 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Actually, there is a sort of underground tradition, mostly in the later
> New
> >Testament apocrypha, that Jesus was in fact an ugly man ...
>
> That tradition seems to have originated with one of the seldom-quoted Old
> Testament "prophecies" regarding the coming of the Messiah, therein
> called, I
> believe, the "man of sorrows."  When correctly translated from the
> original
> Hebrew, it describes him as a man totally lacking in physical
> attractveness,
> even ugly, AND as socially rejected for his appearance, like a thorn among
> roses or whatever.  (It's been treated as "just a metaphor" by Christians
> who
> know of it, but the description in context is a literal one, and, apart
> from
> the desire to make the Savior one of the "beautiful people," there's no
> other
> reason to doubt it being a simple statement of fact.  To sidestep the
> implications of that conclusion, in fact, some Biblicists even resort to a
> Talmudic sleight of hand, claiming that "prophecy" refers not to the One
> Yet
> to Come but to MOSES long ago.
> My OWN understanding, for what it's worth, is that it refers to NEITHER
> and
> is not a "prophecy" at all but describes an historic person, a "failed"
> Messiah ca. 400 BC.)
>
> If no one else comes forward first with the passage in question, which I
> seem
> to recall is found in Second Isaiah, I'll look it up when I have more time
> and post it here myself.
>
>

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