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From: Lloyd Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 3:51 AM

From: "Lloyd Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change
> occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry,
etc.)?

    In the late 19th and early 20th centuries the British Empire was at it
peak.  Not only was there the official Empire but networks of influence in
every significant country.  In America this pro-British Party was lead by
the Morgan Bank, the leading force amongst East Coast Anglophile Blue
Bloods.  Standard Oil arose as a primarily self-financing entity by
consolidating oil refinery and pipeline capacity outside the control of the
Morgan orbit.  [Rockefeller's financing to the extent he needed it came from
German Warburgs' Manhattan Bank which later became the Chase Manhattan under
Rockefeller control.]   The British Imperialists dared not let such a
powerful independent entity arise and challenge their control of the US
Government.  Thus, Morgan backed Progressives, Teddy Roosevelt, etc. trying
to torpedo the "bad trusts", ie. the Rockefeller behemoth.  This scenario is
also confirmed in many ways by Gabriel Kolko's Triumph of Conservatism.
Kolko exposed the covert ruling class agenda behind the Progressive Era.
Geopolitics explains the detail, not the other way around!

                Lloyd

----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars


> From: "Lloyd Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Lloyd, I have never seen anything like this before, in print or
otherwise.
> What >are your sources! Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change
> occur, >what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry,
etc.)?
>
> >Freely as ever, SEK3
>
>     My theories on the Rockefeller-Morgan conflict stem from Rothbard and
> the books of Dr. Emanuel Josephson which Rothbard recommended.  For some
> reason, Rothbard only rarely expounded on this topic in public.  Further,
> other conspiracy theorists, usually the anti-Semitic ones, have presented
> some of the same theory as the Rockefeller-Rothschild conflict theory
based
> on the incorrect idea that the Rothschilds have controlled the "City" and
> "Britain" since their financial coup after Waterloo.
>
>     A better theoretical framework in my view is The British Empire or
Crown
> vs the upstart Rockefellers.    There is every reason to think that
> Democracy in Britain has always been a fraud, an arena for covert
> manipulation by the massive fortunes of the Monarch and related Royal
> Fortunes and their bankers of the City.  This also fits easily into
> A-albionic's overall theory of British Empire vs the Vatican as the
> Rockefellers, in their fight for oil with the British-Dutch forces
> world-wide, sided with the "continental" authoritarian/fascist forces in
> league with the Vatican, always the enemies of the British Empire for
world
> domination since Queen Elizabeth I.
>
>     There is evidence compatible with A-albionic theories in just about
> every history book and biography you pick-up.  However, my interpretation
is
> fairly original in this era.  The theory is not new, however, and was much
> more well known in earlier eras, though often confusedly presented in the
> context of religious dogma be it Masonic, anti-Masonic, Catholic, or
> anti-Catholic.
>
>     Someday I should write a book on the subject.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 7:47 AM
> Subject: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars
>
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > >The Standard Oil Trust was a prime target of the Progressive Movement.
> Anti-Trust laws succeeded in breaking-up the Trust, but it continued on
> subrosa and
> > changed its tactics, taking over Federal Government and via the formerly
> Anglophile complex of tactics and Institutions. For instance, Rockefeller
> money overwhelmed the CFR, Carnegie Trust and a plethora similar ruling
> class, originally Anglophile, "good government" fronts.
> >
> > >>All the best, MHO
> > >"All I know is that I know nothing"-Socrates
> >
> > >***********************************
> > >Lloyd Miller
> >
> > Lloyd, I have never seen anything like this before, in print or
otherwise.
> What are your sources! Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change
> occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry,
etc.)?
> >
> > Freely as ever, SEK3
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