-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
</A> -Cui Bono?-
Please keep the stupid proselytization off the list.
It is very nice and special that your bible-belief keeps you safe and warm.
MOST OF THE WORLD holds different beliefs, hence the "heathens" have been
systematically exploited and butchered from time to time by those of your
Xian faith.
Hypocrisy in the Nth degree.
CAN IT, OK? (it IS, I belive - OFF TOPIC.)
If you insist on making it topical, hold onto your holy Xian ass, cuz it's
gonna get flamed mightily.
thanks.
Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:54 PM
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-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
</A> -Cui Bono?-
You know... Mikus...
You've stated in your comment, whether you realize it or not, exactly
what the Bible is all about... that is FAITH. If *you* cannot define
faith, then there is no way you will ever understand God or the Bible. As
a Christian, "We walk by faith, not by sight"... Since you obviously
cannot understand that concept, there is no way anyone should ever expect
you to believe in God or the Bible.
This is a no win situation... You attack the messenger, rather than the
message, because you don't have enough knowlege of the subject of the Bible
or God to attack either, substantially, so you attack me...
So I say, OH WELL... and ho hum...
You cannot prove or disprove many things in this world. For example, you
cannot see gravity, but you know it exists. You may not understand it's
principles, but you are being held to the ground by it's effects... there
is something that there is no physical evidence for, yet you KNOW it
exists. You put faith in that gravity to hold you to the ground so you don't
go floating off into space somewhere, don't you? Of course you do. It
makes no difference whether you understand the dynamics of it or not. You
just know that you are not floating in space because of it. You have
exercised faith in something... even if it is gravity.
Why say the Bible is incredible? It's incredible only if you choose it to
be. And by your comments and several others' comments, you've simply and
easily chosen the "route of least resistance"; and *that* is the way of the
world. There is no way you will ever understand anything spiritual until
you are willing to put faith in that which you cannot physically see.
Therefore, there is no argument on the subject of the Bible or God, as far
as I'm concerned. The fact of the matter is that you are going to believe
what you will and I will believe what I will. Personally, I've had too
many things in my life happen that have shown me, without a shadow of a
doubt, that the Bible is real and that God is very real.
It's really no big deal to me if you don't understand. Sorry you feel you
have to have "PROOF"... so be it... OK... So what...???
In the words of a famous athiest, Don Henley... "Get over it".
eagle 1
----- Original Message -----
From: "mikus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Response To Eagle
> -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> </A> -Cui Bono?-
>
> >
> ><<But until that day, you can no more prove
> >the Bible and Christianity is a fraud than there is a man in the moon.>>
> >
> >Um...to a reasonable degree of certainty, I could. To the brainwashed
> >that'd
> >be near impossible...so totally is your mind controlled.
> >
>
> Sorry to stick my head in here, but;
>
> I know there's a term for it, and it goes something like this;
>
> You cannot prove the NON-existance of anything. Without physical
evidence,
> you cannot prove that something exists, and on the flip side, you would
need
> physical evidence to prove something didn't exist, and the very existance
of
> the physical evidence would prove that it did exist. It's a very
difficult
> semantic arguement, relying on physical evidence to prove it exists on one
> side, and defeating a belief system designed to thwart the very disproval
on
> the other.
>
> I can't remember a particular quote well enough to post it right now, but
> will post it at a later time, when I can find it, just to show the
humorous
> aspect of trying to prove something doesn't exist. It's from one of
Douglas
> Adams' Hitchhiker Books. You know, the trilogy of 5 books?
>
> Mikus
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