Tony Dickinson wrote:
>
> Dear Ten,
> I would be happier if you could qualify your claim. What is your
> evidence for there being 'absolutely no "hard" evidence for ET
> visitatuion' ?
You are requesting that he prove a negative on the same basis as proving,
(with hard evidence,) the existence of aliens here on Earth. This is a no no.
Firstly, We ( J2- made the original claim that there is no hard evidence of
intelligent alien existence on Earth )are NOT required to prove that aliens
don't exist. The more extraordinary the claim, the more solid the evidence
needs to be. There is none. What there is plenty of, is 'stories'.
>
> That I, myself, have not knowingly been exposed to any, does not tell me
> therefore that such evidence does not exist.
If you deconstruct this sentence you will find a very a problematic
suggestion. These words if taken in a serious context, will cause you to
undermine your own judgment. Good judgment is not something that humans
have a great abundance of. Good judgment is learned. It is not an instinct
we are born with. Unfortunately, there is more to be got from people with bad
judgment than good judgment.
In our society there are few tools which help
develop judgment. School should be one of those tools but it's not. TV could
be the best tool but it entirely monopolized by people who know for CERTAIN
that a consumer with good judgment is a very bad business idea. Aint gonna
happen. Religion...to put it politely is not the right tool for the job.
So it's up to each individual to start his/her own Judgment Buildup Program.
It's tougher than body building. Every one will encourage you to build up your
body.
If all your life you had never experienced the lingering aroma of Unicorn
droppings, and you are running through a beautiful meadow, and your foot
crashes through the crusty crown of cow crap, and the home baked smell of
cooling cow pie wafts you in the face, your first thought ought not be -
"Oh my god I stepped in Unicorn shit!"
That would be bad judgment because you did not correctly judge the physical
situation. In nature, those individuals which miss-judge the physical
environment more than others, significantly improve the common gene pool
by leaving it.
The people who diminish your judgment OR your ability to trust your
judgment, or prevent you from developing your judgment, are doing you
the individual, real harm. This is done both intentionally and unintentionally
in our interactions with people. The measure is, how many of the "events " to
which you are exposed during the course of any given period of time, turn out
to be true. This includes tv, songs, mags, books, commercials, ads, billboards,
salespeople, friends, relatives, strangers with candy, and the clergy.
The more truth you are exposed to, the more you can collect as valid
experiential data to internalize, and be a base to do comparisons with.
Judgment ensues when you compare an experience
in the moment, with what you have learned is true. This might also be called
having common sense.
So the following ...
> Dear Ten,
> I would be happier if you could qualify your claim. What is your
> evidence for there being 'absolutely no "hard" evidence for ET
> visitatuion' ?
> That I, myself, have not knowingly been exposed to any, does not tell me
> therefore that such evidence does not exist.
is telling you that your experiential internal base WHICH HAS TAKEN YOU YEARS
TO ACCUMULATE AND WHICH HAS SUCCESSFULLY BROUGHT YOU TO YOUR PRESENT POINT
OF SURVIVAL, should be put aside in order to accept a concept some one wants
you to share. This is corruption. You are asked to put asside trustworthy data
and replace it with " something else."
Unless YOU YOURSELF has ever directly experienced contact with an alien or
alien paraphernalia, you have no reason to assume that the more unlikely
experience is the true one.
> (At least for one example, the evidence with regards meteoric microossils
> would appear to be growing since The Murchison work by Pfloog/Hoyle back
> in the late 70s.
We are not talking about space bacteria or viruses. We are talking about
intelligent beings who were reviewed thusly...
>>> EXOPOLITICS by Alfred Lambremont Webre
Reviewed by Nicky Molloy
This is one of the most deeply thought provoking books I've read in some
time.
Alfred appears right in his perception that almost a majority of US adults
know intuitively that we are a part of a populated universe and have been
kept in the dark about the implications of this. Can our intuition override
deliberate disinformation about this disributed by officials? The rest of
society who choose not to believe there is life out there have been deceived
from birth. This could possibly constitute the need to evolve more and may
even as Alfred suggests reveal the real reason why we have been quarantined
from active participation in Universe society, by the rulers of the
universe - exopolitical reasons, reasons of Universal politics.
Have the rest of the interplanetary federation deliberately shunned us and
left us alone to transmute our violent, warlike and destructive tendencies?
Could there be unseen Universal guardians watching over the Earth - and I
would also ask, maybe even an unseen planetary ruler acting as owner of this
planet, answerable to Universal rulers?<<<
...If this were just a weak rehash of The Day The Earth Stood Still, fine.
But if this is presented and accepted as real, then something stinketh in
Universe.
Joshua2
> Rather than exploring corn circles in the temporate
> zones, these more passive travellers are landing in stone
> spaceships amongst the Antarctic craters.)
>
> By aplying your same logic to the converse case, 'Interpretations and
> inherent beliefs' might just as likely 'cause' one not to see "aliens"
> for what they are be they present.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 21 May 2000, tenebroust wrote:
>
> > There is absolutely no "hard" evidence of extraterrestrial visitation of
> > the Earth........ I would also venture to say that there is NO evidence
> > of ANY kind, "hard" or otherwise, but I won't try to press that point.
> > Interpretation and inherent beliefs cause one to see "aliens"
> > everywhere, just like Van Daaniken (sp?).
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