From http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3J3AF1D9C&live=tr ue&tagid=ZZZC00L1B0C&subheading=information%20technology }}>Begin Information technology Leaders say no to e-snooping By Jean Eaglesham and Robert Shrimsley Published: June 11 2000 20:57GMT | Last Updated: June 12 2000 16:06GMT Business leaders will on Monday throw their weight behind a threatened Lords' revolt that could defeat the government bill to allow official snooping on e- mails. They will warn that the planned legislation will impose a "potentially highly onerous" burden on companies and could force some high tech firms abroad. The attack will encourage threats of revolt in the Lords, where peers on Sunday claimed they had sufficient numbers to defeat the measure - known as the Regulation of Investigatory Powers bill - unless ministers offer substantial concessions. The industry criticisms mark a new low in the government's increasingly embattled relationship with business. Clashes over the financial services and markets bill and the tax regime for multinationals are married to a growing uncertainty about Britain’s role regarding the euro. Ministers have worked hard to win industry support for their e-commerce strategy. Charles Clarke, the home office minister, told the Commons "buy-in from industry is vital" to the RIP bill. But the the Alliance for Electronic Business - which includes the Confederation of British Industry - will today criticise many of the bill's fundamental precepts. The turbulent progress of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers bill will be closely watched by other governments, since the UK is one of the first to try to impose the right to intercept internet communications. Measures in the United States to force companies to lodge copies of decryption keys with a third party were defeated. Government claims that the RIP bill simply updates existing powers to tap telephone and postal services are rejected by both industry and civil liberty campaigners. The bill gives state officials an "unprecedented right of access to information on legitimate business activities", that could be abused, the alliance will claim. The criteria for issuing warrants to state officials are too broad, "imposing potentially a highly onerous burden on business [by] allowing the secretary of state to force an intercept requirement on spurious grounds," the alliance will say. This could "damage the UK's ambitions to becoming the global leader in e- commerce". The home office yesterday denied warrants could be issued on spurious grounds, saying there were a number of safeguards built into the bill to prevent this. Measures in the bill which could allow at least some of the cost of interception to be offloaded onto the industry are also attacked by the alliance. The state must meet the cost in full "to ensure e-business is not prejudiced and made to operate outside the UK". Lord McNally, Liberal Democrat peer, on Sunday said he was sure there were sufficient Tories and cross-benchers ready to side with his party to defeat the government. The opposition parties have already been discussing tactics with each other and have warned Mr Clarke to expect defeats unless there are concessions. They have demanded early publication of a code of conduct for security authorities using the bill's powers. The bill is now in committee stage in the Lords and ministers have been told they have "about 10 days" to head off peers' concerns or risk defeat on a number of opposiiton amendments. End<{{ >>>Occur to anyone that the direction of our (U.S.) gov't is an attraction to the Britlanders' magnetic 'of the gov't, for the gov't, by the gov't' policies. This article gave me some insight on just how the gov't -- with its infinite (seeming) number of intellectual luminaries (read: bureaucrats) -- has no problem in imposing itself on the unsuspecting (read: duped) citizenry. Now that the Britlander business community doesn't like 'e-snooping', there may be a benefit for the commoners. My insight is rooted in the Britlanders' willingness to sacrifice all for the sake of that Jolly Ol' Britland JOB), be it wars in Sierra Leone (and elswhere), taxes on everything, and the reverence of celebrity (as exemplified by the "Royals" [no, not the typewriters]). Suggest a reading of Mencken's *The American Language* which delves into the linguistic (philologic) history of the separation of the countries, by their language as much as by water. In this, I've learned a new word: "anglomaniac". And I thought I was on to something original!!! 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