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From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Proof ...
> Was the mass school killing by Hamilton done with a sports pistol or was
it
> done with a rifle?
2 x browning 9mm - used for the killings- 56 shots , no reloads (28 round
clips?- is that right? he deinately didn't reload and he only used the
brownings... i know very little about gun specs- but do they really take 28
round clips?)
2 x smith & wesson .357. one used to top himself afterward.
http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/scottish/dunblane/duncntnt.htm
>
> The question still remains, has the U.K. experieced an increase in violent
> crime?
Would the presence of a sporting/hunting firearm have been a deterent
> to the criminal?
no it wouldn't deter. the level of the contact crime is not the same as in
the US- firearm crimes are rare as the ability to purchase firearms is
limited to the higher level criminals and terrorist groups. in america there
is a good chance that a burglar will be armed with a gun- in the UK the same
burglar would not be armed- or if he was it would be a cosh or a blade.
to have guns circulating would change this- it would raise the level both in
the criminal and in the householder. in the US there is an ever increasing
internal arms race going on.
> A WorldNetDaily release, dated 2 March 2001 references Jack Straw, the
U.K.
> Home Secretary as admitting that, "The percentage of the population that
> suffered contact crime in England and Wales was 3.6 percent compared to
1.9
> percent in the United States, with 0.4 percent in Japan."
the example above shows how weak, or blurry these stats are- you cannot
compare the UK and the US - being burgled by an unarmed assailant and being
burgled by an armed assaillant are both contact crimes- but the level in
each country is different. the chance of death is very much increased when
guns are involved as oipposed to any other weapon.
>
> Didn't know that there are armed U.K. Police patrols. Haven't seen any of
> them.
in all the major cities there are mobile armed response teams. they are
permanently armed and actively patrolling. in the old days there were no
regular armed teams on the streets- except for northern ireland.
> But what about the import of surplus military weapons into the U.K.?
mostly going to terrorist groups- it is no surprise that the increase in
particularly ex-military weapons coincides with a rearming by the dissident
republican groups in ireland.
>
> Bill H.
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