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> If you only knew SOMETHING about the subject, this would be fun. But you
> argue out of complete ignorance.
> Israel has non Jewish citizens. Many. Of different varieties.
> DO YOU UNDERSTAND THESE WORDS???
Yes I understand. See the following:
Restive Israeli Arabs Complain Of Having 'No Rights, No Dignity'
By Lee Hockstader
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday , October 3, 2000 ; Page A19
UMM EL FAHM, Israel, Oct. 2 -- There is no immediate reason
to assume that Ghassan Abbas would be a bitter man. A successful
Israeli actor, Abbas has played a range of television and stage roles
that have earned him a degree of fame, a respectable income and an
array of imported creature comforts.
But while Abbas is an Israeli citizen, he is also an Arab and a Muslim.
And in that dual identity lies the key to his anger--and to the rage of
thousands of Israeli Arabs who have joined the street protests here
in recent days.
"We're finished with apartheid in South Africa, but now it's come
over here to Palestine," said Abbas, 43, who pulled his Volkswagen
behind a warehouse on the outskirts of this north Israeli town to talk
as rioting raged a couple of hundred yards up the street.
"When Jews in Israel hit a soldier or throw stones at a soldier or
push a soldier, the police chief says, 'We can't do anything because
we don't want to hurt people's feelings.' But it seems the Arabs
don't have feelings, or aren't allowed to express them."
In an extraordinary explosion of fury, Arab citizens of Nazareth,
Umm el Fahm and other towns in northern Israel have swarmed
onto the streets since Friday, joining violent protests against
Jewish rule by their Palestinian brethren in the West Bank
and Gaza Strip.
The Israeli Arabs, who generally have no firearms, have attacked
Israeli forces with stones, slingshots and molotov cocktails. Today,
in a sharp escalation of violence, Israeli troops fired on Israeli Arabs
in Umm el Fahm and elsewhere, killing six. A seventh, who was
injured Sunday, died of his wounds today.
It was the bloodiest instance of Israeli troops firing on the country's
Arab population since 1976, when riots broke out in protest of
government land expropriations.
END OF ARTICLE
Yes Israel has "non Jewish citizens." The question is, how did it get
these non Jewish citizens? They are those who were left on the land AFTER
Israel was created. Israel was stuck with them (and their off spring).
It is a constant complaint in Israel about these non Jews...how they are
a "threat" to the future of Israel. Anyone who does not recognize that
these non Jews are treated as second (and third) class citizens is delusional.
If Israel is NOT a Theocratic Racialist State, why are Jews automatically
eligible for citizenship but not those of other religions or alleged Jewish
ethnicity who were were not born in Israel? Your trumpeting about "non
Jewish citizens" is more self deception.
> Israel's political system is secular. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THESE WORDS???
> It is a democracy because Jewish ( majority ) and non Jewish ( minority )
> citizens elect political parties to govern. DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
It is nominally secular. It cannot be actually secular if it has a relgious /
ethnic test for new citizens who are not born in Israel.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND????
> What happened to you, You never used to be this stupid.
> Racism has ruined you brain.
> Too bad.
>> J2
I am not a racist. I distrust people of all races equally. I don't care what the
Arabs and Israelis do to each other. It is none of our business. However
intellectual honesty demands that we examine the situation objectively.
All the countries in the Middle East are theocratic, racialist societies. It is
ridiculous for Israel to claim some kind of moral superiority vis a vis the
Palestinians. It is also wrong for American taxpayers to subsidize Israel's
use of tanks and F16's against civilians. I also think it would be wrong for the
US to subsidize Palestinian human bombs.
J2, you are a (sometimes) intelligent guy.
Get past your primitive imaginary tribalism.
(P.S. This really, really is my last post on this)
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