-Caveat Lector-
You know, Alamaine, I wish there would not be an armed response at
all. I know this is unpopular but I don't think it is going to
work for the Arabs will just draw strength from it and harden their
resolve. I wish all parties would sit down and hash it out. No
amount of killing other innocent civilians will bring back one of
our dead. I did think Coulter showed some insight into the thought
that we did not go after just Hitler but carpet bombed Germany,
including Dresden (who tried to surrendered for three days!).
Maybe that is how people will see this situation. I hope not.
Maybe the Afghans will turn BinLaden over but I doubt it. That
seems the only thing that will avoid fighting.
I think we should set up some rule for the conduct of Israel if
they want our $4B a year and lift sanctions on Iraq that only hurt
civilians. Now Osama BinLaden has also been linked to the USS Cole
but I did not see the proof myself and so do not know about that.
We are just going to have more Americans dead, too, maybe not all
military. And I am not so sure the terrorist attacks are over, far
from it, for a jihad does not end until one side is destroyed.
I think Coulter is just blowing off steam for that was one of her
closest friends. Cooler heads should be allowed to prevail but I
do not really think they will. Now a National Emergency has been
declared. That puts FEMA in charge. At least the Butcher of Waco
is not running the show now, for what it is worth. I wonder if
this is what the families of the victims want. I surely do not and
have family that is already in harm's way because of this. And a
draft age son, should it come to that.
If we start bombing, I think they will fight back with terrorists
attacks for that is the only way they can. I think this is from
some sort of Arab League rogue group (not the governments) but some
from every Arab country and not just BinLaden. But, nobody cares
what I think and this seems to be marching forward as though it has
a life of its own. If by the religion of the Nazarene you mean
Christianity, no, those things do not relect it as I know it.
Those are the personal convictions of individuals only and do not
speak for the religion as a whole. No one does that.
Unfortunately. atavisticalists. I use the word atavistic but love
this use of it. It is my vocabulary word for today.
:-)
Amelia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Euphorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] This is war-Ann Coulter
-Caveat Lector-
On 14 Sep 01, at 2:00, Amelia wrote:
> We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert
> them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and
> punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed
German
> cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
First off, I liked seeing Barbara Olson on the TV. I agree with
Coulter that
she was "nice". Barbara seemed to be one of the most learned and
reasonable of the commentators on the various talk shows. I was
twice
connected with the attack on the Pentagon, firstly because of my
lifelong
connection to the purpose of the building and secondly because of
Barbara.
That written, Coulter has shown -- and Falwell's and F Graham's --
true
stripes with reference to the religion of the Nazarene: spiteful,
vicious, and
hollow in character.
What she is talking about is an atavism once known as the Crusades,
something we learn about as an historical event but something that
has
never really stopped. All this nostalgia for the Holey Land. All
this
resurgence of emotion for a piece of ground that has long since
lost its
consecration, a loss carried over to the New World by reptilian
minded
atavisticalists.
The Germans are Christians, and were in WW2. Remember Martin
Luther?
I would like for someone to point out any references in the
Nazarene's
teachings that call for violent military (re)actions. Skip the
revisionists who
came decades after the Nazarene ... just point out what was
attributed to
him.
Ann, by showing her gut-wrenching emotional reaction to her and our
loss of
a fine person, has nullified her grief. She calls on failed
policies, failed
history, and -- above all -- a failed belief system as the course
to salvation,
retribution, revenge. The history of the world was written in the
blood of
soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who fought with G*d on their
side,
sometimes even with adversaries having the same G*d, the same S*n,
the
same Holy Spirit.
We have invaded 'their' countries, killed 'their' leaders, and
tried to convert
'them' to a religion that blossomed as a military guidance system.
Maybe
thos in leadership positions should take some time to really read
...
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