-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Samantha L. wrote: > This report says O'Neill took the job earlier this year. CNN's version >quotes the NYC Police Commissioner as saying September 11th would have been >O'Neill's first or second day at the job. Another version says O'Neill was >hired for the job in August. Considering that these attacks had to have been planned for YEARS, even if O'Neill 'took the job earlier this year', the timing seems a tad coincidental for someone with such an extensive background in bin Laden alleged terrorist events to take on the job of WTC security... I also keep remembering reports from people who escaped the WTC regarding security STOPPING people evacuating the towers after they were hit -- in some cases people reported security coming over the building intercom within a few minutes, telling everyone to return to their offices; in at least 2 other separate reports, survivors reported a person actually came and told them NOT to evacuate, and in one case they were herded from the stairwell they were walking down to an empty room on the 14th floor that 'just happened' to have a TV on showing news reports of the attacks... These people only survived because they IGNORED the advice/order to remain where they were, and they decided to continue evacuating... Meanwhile, according to Rudolph Guliani's account, he was attempting to set up a base whereby he could communicate to people in the WTC that they should evacuate immediately...and yet for some reason the WTC security was instructing the WTC to do just the opposite... > Assuming all security personnel within the WTC complex are in radio >contact, would the decision to command employees (over the loudspeaker >system) to remain at their desks have come from the head of security? I've worked as a security guard in the past, so I have some knowledge in this matter. I assume that the rank-and-file security force at the WTC was probably private security; the WTC used to be owned by the Port Authority of NYC, so security was presumably under their office; but the building was recently sold to a private firm, so presumably security also became a private affair at that time... In either case, there would have (or should have) been a standard emergencies procedures manual for the security staff, and especially after the 1993 attack there should have been procedures established for a bomb/explosion, definitely procedures for a major fire. Keep in mind that at that time of day especially, a 'security guard' is little more than a receptionist with a uniform; keep in mind that these men and women are paid little more than minimum wage and get minimal, if any, training (presuming it was a private security company handling security at the WTC; even if the guards were direct employees of WTC, their pay and training wouldn't have been all that different from contract private security firms'). They probably didn't even have radios (in my experience it was a very rare occurance to have radios assigned, and when they were they usually had dead batteries), but instead the guards were expected to call in reports via a standard phone at their station (I once was assigned to a post where there was neither phone nor radio, and no explanation as to what I was expected to do if there was an 'incident') -- phones which probably didn't work after the planes hit...so any guard on the lower levels of Tower One probably had a problem calling in the incident at approx. 8:48 when the first plane hit...it would have been up to each guard to make a judgement call as to what to do. This would have been especially true in the second tower before it was hit -- over there, there was almost 15 minutes elapsed before the 2nd plane hit...time where many many people could have been evacuated had it been commenced immediately... Quite frankly, based on my own experience, most of the guards probably decided to save their own butts. If I'd been working as a guard there (especially in the 2nd tower), I would have stayed at my post as long as possible, but I definitely would have instructed the occupants on the floors I was responsible for to evacuate as soon as possible -- my individual judgement call would have been that it would have been better to get everyone out and then discover it was possibly a relatively minor incident, rather than keep people inside and then discover it was too late to get out... But that would have been my individual call... The only way I would have gotten on an intercom and told people to return to their offices, or stand in a stairwell and physically stop people from evacuating, would have been if I had been specifically instructed to do so...and that decision would have to have come from higher up. Quite frankly, I would have made the intercom announcement under protest, and under no circumstances would I have agreed to STOP people already in the process of evacuating the building. In fact, I would have done the exact opposite, I would have made the call to ASSIST in evacuation, while at the same time trying to get my own tailbone out of there... I find the fact that people were instructed NOT to evacuate, especially now knowing an ex-FBI agent who was intimately involved in not only the 1993 WTC bombing investigation but the terrorist bombings of the African embassies and the USS Cole was now in charge of WTC security, extremely suspicious...especially keeping in mind that more than one disaster drill had been conducted at the towers in the few weeks preceding 9/11... >Last month, FBI sources confirmed that O'Neill was under investigation after >he left a briefcase containing classified information unattended in a hotel >in Tampa, Fla., last year. The briefcase, which was recovered and returned to >O'Neill, contained several documents that included a report outlining >virtually every national security operation in New York. THIS should set off everyone's alarms.... So now we have a guy who at the very least was criminally negligent in leaving classified data regarding NYC security procedures available for anyone to read....and had to be responsible for the instructions to WTC occupants to NOT evacuate after the planes hit. 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