-Caveat Lector-

my point is that all your gods are antichrists of other gods. that is a
position that incluses my gods, POC, so yes- renounce your own and take my
position.
"allowing" is a patronising statement that infers that you have the power to
disallow something. which is childish and arrogant.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Antichrist revealed by jesuit priest


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I am pleased that you are so righteous that you can denounce my position
> in favour of your own. Do you have papal infallility? May we all line up
> to kiss your pinky?
>
> I expressed the opinion that in a free world even Antichrist Jews and
> other Antichrist groups and cults like that of Colonel Aquino ought to
> have freedom to speak and proselytize as long as they don't do it by
> fraud. How is your opinion better? If it is, I will convert.
>
> POC
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, c. wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Antichrist revealed by jesuit priest
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > IMO, freedom of religion allows Jews and Satanists to be antichrist.
> >
> >
> > this statement shows so much about christian attitude. "allow"? for
goodness
> > sake, POC, are you so far down the the intellectual ladder that you do
not
> > recognise the validity of religions other than christian? it is the most
> > distasteful aspect of religion of any kind- the arrogance of being
certain
> > that their religion is correct. in your thinking all other beliefs
except
> > yours is wrong. do you not believe that all you have is a belief?
christian
> > religion's mainstay is faith without evidence- that is a self declared
> > mainstay, one underlined by the religion itself.
> > jew, muslims, hindus, athiests, buddhists, whoever... they all do not
> > believe in your god. that makes you the antichrist of their religion (if
> > applicable of course- some religions have moved on from such wooly
theories
> > about the nature of existence).
> > that is what is so incredible about these kindergarten religions such as
> > christianity- it is on such a basic, divisive level. good and bad- right
and
> > wrong. and not right and wrong morally either- right means believing
what
> > you believe and wrong is not believing what you believe. personal
experience
> > is worth nothing- only the dogma of thousands of years ago. a static
> > undeveloping religion locked into base human emotion- guilt of the
sacrifice
> > of one man, guilt of being alive- born with sin. to grow up in a state
of
> > apology for being alive and naked and aware.
> > do you not realise that there is no literal truth in christianity? that
it
> > is metaphor and abstraction to allow self development through
understanding
> > of oneself, of others, of our place in the world? literal interpretation
of
> > gods is deplorable, dangerous to others and graceless and just damned
rude.
> > delusional.
> > religion is not even needed to enforce stability and moral
responsibility
> > anymore due to education and access to information. poeple can accept
> > responsibility for themselves- no excuse anymore. if someone does
something
> > that harms someone else, it is down to them. the devil does not make
anyone
> > kill and god does not heal anyone. it is free will and personal
> > responibility- or the lack of it- that is happening within people- we
are
> > not puppets of supernatural forces, we are not playthings of higher
> > lifeforms that demand worship or sacrifice or slavery or devotion.
> > when you thank god you are cheating yourself or the people around you.
when
> > you blame the devil you are evading responsibility or releasing others
from
> > theirs.
> > "allow"? you are either ignorant or evil. or both.
> >
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