Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition

[thew]

Title: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition

I did not say to deny the history, or change it. But the memorial is not to those who raised the flag, but to those who died trying to save others. The photo IS the image of reality. And the photo will always exist. Hell - put a copy of the photo in the memorial plaque – history is about the truth – memorials are not the same as history. The statue IS an art piece. I can further into the nature of art and its relationship to reality with you if you like..... But I think you get what I mean.. Do not deny the reality – but it is ok to alter the SYMBOLISM to express more fully what you are memorializing. Not that I really care one way or another in this specific instance – I just don’t think in the case anything is hurt by changing the statue - (and I wonder if it was 3 black guys who had raised the flag in reality, if the same people would be complaining about the change or not)
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From: iggy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:29:38 –
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition

so its ok to pre-change historyfor meaning?
meaning that meaning has no meaning?
and symbolism has more meaning than truth?
everyone that agrees raise you right hand, with meaning and symbolilism.
histoey should ALWAYS be the truth of what happened.
i'd have ho problem if the statue was a "artpiece" but its taken from a photo. so what is real?
the statue? or the photo? or neither?

thew wrote:

Meaning and symbolism carry more weight than accuracy.
Put the fact that it isn't accurate on the plaque
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From: iggy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:57:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition
 
historical accuracy iseverything ....... they(the big THEY) change history at will.

thew wrote:

Why is historical accuracy so important?

This is a memorial, a symbol, not a lecture or history book.
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From: Bill Kalivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:22:34 -0600
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Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Sign this please-WTC Flag Raising petition

New York City is planning to erect a statue depicting the famous photo of
the flag raising at Ground Zero. They want to change what the photo shows
(three white male firefighters) and instead include an African-American and a
Hispanic. The website URL below is for a petition to have the statue depict
the flag raising exactly as it actually occurred...to make it historically
accurate, not politically correct. Would you please pass it on to everyone?

Thanks.

>http://www.petitiononline.com/flgraise