-Caveat Lector-

Hey Joshua, thanks a lot for proving my point with
your quote below.

Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but you Greens (Reds,
really) do not have a monopoly on environmental policy
or morality.


> Joshua2 wrote:

> Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's so funny!
And yes... environmentalism in some form WILL be the
idea and primary cause of the extinction of
Capitalism.


> > Greens are like watermelons -- green on the
> outside
> > and red on the inside.
> >



--- Nurev Ind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Global Warming: Socialisms
> Trojan Horse
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > So true.
> >
> > Greens are like watermelons -- green on the
> outside
> > and red on the inside.
> >
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's so funny! Try this one
> genius.
> What's you on the outside, and dead on the inside?
>
> Green is not socialism moron. Green is EVERYTHING.
>
> Fortunately most people in the world have enough
> brains to
> understand that their very existance depends on the
> good
> functioning of the natural environment.
>
> And yes... environmentalism in some form WILL be the
> idea
> and primary cause of the extinction of Capitalism.
> But that's
> because capitalism is THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE FORCE TO
> THE
> ENVIRONMENT in the world at this time, and more
> folks come
> to understand this every day. Since most people are
> poor and
> don't have ANY vested interest in a system which
> only serves the
> rich and the greedy who desperately want to be rich,
> it's obvious
> that Capitalism is on the way out.
>
> You and Johnson should submit your names to the "
> Darwin's"
> list for consideration.
>
> Enjoy it while you can,
> Joshua2
>
> >
> >
> > --- "M. A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > ~~for educational purposes only~~
> > > [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]
> > >
> > > Global Warming: Socialism's Trojan Horse
> > > by Eric Englund
> > >
> > > On February 14, 2002, President Bush provided
> > > details for
> > > his plan to combat global warming. The
> cornerstone
> > > of his
> > > plan is to promote voluntary reductions in
> > > greenhouse gas
> > > emissions. Naturally, environmentalists were
> > > outraged that
> > > President Bush refused to adhere to the Kyoto
> > > Treaty. It
> > > is President Bush's contention that the Kyoto
> > > protocol would
> > > cost nearly 5,000,000 jobs in the U.S. alone. Of
> > > course,
> > > environmentalists claimed that there is a bigger
> > > picture
> > > here. All people, especially those living in
> > > industrialized
> > > countries such as the U.S., must sacrifice in
> order
> > > to win
> > > the universal struggle against global warming.
> As we
> > > have
> > > seen over the past three decades,
> environmentalists
> > > have
> > > succeeded in eroding property rights in the
> United
> > > States in
> > > order to protect Mother Earth as they see fit
> (i.e.
> > > through
> > > the Clean Water Act, through the Endangered
> Species
> > > Act,
> > > through ridiculous wetlands legislation, through
> air
> > > quality
> > > laws, etc). Whether or not President Bush
> > > understands this,
> > > the real struggle is between liberty and
> > > totalitarianism.
> > > For if environmentalists succeed in gradually
> taking
> > > away
> > > our private property rights, then a free market
> and
> > > liberty
> > > cannot exist. Thus, it is my contention that the
> > > struggle
> > > against environmentalism is actually a struggle
> for
> > > liberty
> > > (using the classical liberal definition).
> > >
> > > Undoubtedly, environmentalists will take
> exception
> > > to being
> > > called illiberal socialists (but I repeat
> myself).
> > > Perhaps
> > > there are those of you who are alarmed about
> global
> > > warming
> > > and sympathize with the environmental/green
> > > movement. My
> > > response is for you to be careful with whom you
> > > associate;
> > > which leads me to provide the following quote
> from
> > > Dr. George
> > > Reisman's magnum opus Capitalism:
> > >
> > >   ... it should not be surprising to see hordes
> of
> > > former
> > >   Reds, or of those who otherwise would have
> become
> > > Reds,
> > >   turning from Marxism and becoming the Greens
> of
> > > the
> > >   ecology movement. It is the same fundamental
> > > philosophy
> > >   in a different guise, ready as ever to wage
> war on
> > > the
> > >   freedom and well-being of the individual.
> > >
> > > So who are these former Reds who have converted
> to
> > > Green
> > > Socialism? One excellent example is Mikhail
> > > Gorbachev. Mr.
> > > Gorbachev is now the president of Green Cross
> > > International
> > > (a non-governmental environmental organization).
> > > Among the
> > > many issues with which Green Cross International
> has
> > > become
> > > involved, global warming is right at the top of
> its
> > > list.
> > > Gosh, when Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan, and
> > > Margaret
> > > Thatcher became so chummy in the mid-1980s, I
> never
> > > once
> > > heard the Soviet dictator express concern about
> the
> > > environment.
> > > Clearly, Mr. Gorbachev has identified
> > > environmentalism as a
> > > Trojan horse capable of resurrecting socialism
> on a
> > > global
> > > scale.
> > >
> > > How can I say that about Mikhail Gorbachev?
> Didn't
> > > he bring
> > > glasnost (freedom of speech) and perestroika
> > > (economic and
> > > political reforms) to the Soviet Union? Indeed
> he
> > > did. Yet,
> > > these were means to his end of trying to save
> Soviet
> > > Communism
> > > and, therefore, to save his absolute and
> unspeakable
> > > power
> > > (that brought human misery to millions).
>
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