-Caveat Lector- Boeing signs huge China deal http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1574000/1574486.stm
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (deleted, irrelevant text) .....China bought the planes because China needs planes period. She will attempt to buy a projected 2300 planes by 2010. Boeing and Macdonald were merged to handle the orders and to keep as much of the order from going to AIRBUS as possible. CAAC and it's predecessor, CWM, were part of the merger team. We were pushed out in favor of Goldman Sachs. The US should have realized the stupidity of the merger when we (CAAC) were told by Beijing to shutup. We tried to lodge objections to the merger which was for China's benefit. Warning flags should have gone up all over the place. Who is the biggest, steadiest company in the US? Boeing. How much of the US economy's growth is based on Boeing? LOTS. What happens to the US economy if China buys a large order of planes and then refuses to take delivery or to pay up? Woops! And we have Goldman Sachs and the Clinton Admin to thank for this little mistake. Of course there is no problem as long as the China and the US are friendly. Companies that is. That friendly doesn't apply to workers. The work transfers to China. Costs are down in China and they have a growing economy. The US economy is mature, overvalued, workers are overpaid and unions strong. Move the company to China and if they do not want to go, maybe China will cancel the order. AIRBUS will take it. Why would they not take delivery? Maybe there is a problem with the planes. What could be a problem? China needs the planes to be remote control. They have to be remote control. China has a great deal of infighting between the provinces. Theoretically some provincial leaders are more powerful than Beijing. The provinces hijack each other's planes all the time in feuds. It is hard to hijack a remote controlled plane. China is a leader in ROTHR technology. I laugh. I spelled it wrong on earlier post because I always start a friend's name which is similar to ROTHR. Changing between languages is disorienting Boeing is part of the research team on ROTHR too BTW. China wants to have the world's largest ROTHR system. They want to be the world leader in the technology. If they succeed everyone will fly to their software and hardware. They control the skies. They also can use it to consolidate all world shipping. Pirate, drug dealers, dance to their radar frequencies http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/prrl/prrl9825.html Following is a brief summary of the Radio Science papers from Berkey's introduction: "The Navy's work in OTH is summarized in Paper 1 by J.H. Headrick and J.F. Thomason; an overview of OTH work undertaken in China over the past two decades is presented by L.-W. Li in Paper 2. Paper 3, by S.J. Anderson and Yu. I. Abramovich, describes a global algorithm for mitigating against the simultaneous occurrence of multiple distortion mechanisms, while the significance of FMCW waveform generator spectral purity in the context of limitations to OTH radar performance is discussed in the work of G.F. Earl (Paper 4). The utilization of known terrain features (cities, mountain peaks and islands) to improve the location accuracy of targets is discussed in the manuscript by J.R. Barnum and E.E. Simpson (Paper 5). "To improve the capability of ship detection with OTH radar, B.T. Root describes a coherent sea-clutter cancellation method that subtracts the first-order Bragg peaks appearing in backscattered ocean spectra (paper 6). Using a Maximum likelihood adaptive neural system, L.I. Perlovsky, V.H. Webb, S.R. Bradley and C.A. Hansen discuss an advanced detection and tracking system that provides improved capabilities in clutter-dominated environments (Paper 7). "Range-folded equatorial spread-F severely contaminates the ROTHR systems under certain conditions; a means of mitigating against what is termed spread Doppler clutter is the application of a non-recurrent transmitted waveform, as described in Paper 8 by M.P. Hartnett, J.T. Clancy and R.J. Denton. Paper 9, B.S. Dandekar, G. Sales, B. Weijers, D. Reynolds discuss a synoptic study of equatorial clutter using the OTH-B radar system, which suggests that equatorial spread-F does not exhibit a dependence on the frequency of operation or on the level of global magnetic activity. In Paper 10, S.V. Fridman describes a method of inverting backscatter ionograms that enables the three-dimensional reconstruction of the down-range ionosphere. "A method of rapidly synthesizing backscatter ionograms from a known ionosphere has been developed by C.Y. Ong, J.A. Bennett and P.L. Dyson and is described in Paper 11. C.J. Coleman has developed a simple two-dimensional ray tracing formulation which is applied to propagation problems encountered with oblique and backscatter radars as described in Paper 12. R.H. Anderson and J.L Krolik have applied statistical modeling of ionospheric parameters to derive a maximum likelihood method of coordinate registration, showing that it is a significant improvement over conventional methods (Paper 13). R.I. Barnes, S.A. Braendler, C.J. Coleman, R.S. Gardiner-Garden, and T.V. Hoang, have compared parameterization techniques used for modeling the ionospheric vertical profile with the goal of increasing prediction accuracy (Paper 14). "A multi-source volumetric technique that combines information from several sensors with TEC data obtained from ionospheric tomography to derive three-dimensional maps of electron density distribution is presented in Paper 15 by C. Biswas and H. Na. The application of OTH radar techniques to measuring the spatial and temporal variability of the Florida current is illustrated in Paper 16 by T.M. Georges, J.A. Harlan, T.N. Lee and R.R. Leben. Sea truth measurements in the Gulf of Mexico are compared with the radial component measurements of ocean surface current by the ROTHR Texas facility in work carried out by J.A. Harlan, T.M. Georges and D.C. Biggs (Paper 17). RELOCATABLE OVER-THE-HORIZON RADAR (ROTHR) - A land-based <A HREF="http://www.sew- lexicon.com/gloss_b.htm#BISTATIC_RADAR">BISTATIC</A> ionospheric backscatter radar system that can detect, track, and estimate the composition of ships and aircraft at any altitude in a fixed annular sector of more than 60 degrees at ranges from 500 to 1,500 nautical miles.. The transmitter radiates energy in the HF band (3-30 MHz). The <A HREF="http://www.sew- lexicon.com/gloss_i.htm#IONOSPHERE">IONOSPHERE</A> refracts this energy, returning it to earth and illuminating the area under surveillance. The ROTHR consists of three radars having sufficient separation between transmitters and receivers to provide continuous bistatic operation. One radar- the <A HREF="http://www.sew- lexicon.com/gloss_b.htm#BACKSCATTER RADAR">BACKSCATTER RADAR</A> (BSR) serves to detect targets, while the other two radars - the <A HREF="http://www.sew- lexicon.com/#QUASI-VERTICAL INCIDENCE SOUNDER">QUASI-VERTICAL INCIDENCE SOUNDER</A> (QVIS) and the <A HREF="http://www.sew-lexicon.com/gloss_b.htm#BACKSCATTER SOUNDER">BACKSCATTER SOUNDER</A> (BSS) - measure the characteristics of the ionosphere. [<A HREF="http://www.sew- lexicon.com/cyr_bibl.htm#10:2778">10:2778</A>] ( View the <A HREF="http://www.sew-lexicon.com/Logo_ROTHR.htm">ROTHR Logo</A> ) In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:20:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smileyund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "halva_gr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am in small doses trying to understand what you are saying and > > refer you to my comments on message 10840. > > > > China bought four hundred million dollars worth of the very > > > > > 757's that struck the World Trade Center. Someone needs to > > > explain > > > > to > > > > > me why this was done if these jets had just been shown to be > > > > > vulnerable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by a jet being "vulnerable"? > > > > > > > > > > > > TO HIJACKING > > > > You are asking why China would buy 757's if they could be used in > > operations like 9/11. How important are the characteristics of an > > aircraft in deciding how probable it is to be hijacked? > > > > i am suggesting that these jets were pertinent because they may have > been outfitted with something special > > either that or it is also possible that boeing, with a spectacular > commercial on september 11, 2001 is saying to the world, "buy our jets > or we'll cram them down your throat" > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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