-Caveat Lector- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:27:07 -0800 (PST) From: George Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Christopolis
Dear Mr. Grace: I note the Nov. 7/02 article referred to on the home page of the Interfaith Climate Change Network, <http://www.protectingcreation.org>, captioned as "'What Car Do You Drive' is a religious issue, campaign says." I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. Here in Vancouver with about 500,000 people living in 6 miles x 6 miles, ~30 lives are lost every year due to traffic fatalities. "Thou shalt not kill". A city of this size could be designed (let's say on the Canadian-American border) and traffic fatalities would be a rarity; perhaps they would never occur. Then there are lives lost due to air pollution. The Sierra Club of BC is going to court to argue that the "Life-Liberty-Security Clause" of the Canadian Constitution protects citizens against air pollution because air pollution also costs lives. Canada, as you may know, is about to sign the Kyoto Accord. While the provincial premiers are launching a protest, it may be that they can come up with even higher standards for new habitats. The Canadian-American population increases by 2-3,000,000 every year. Why not just one faith-based model Christopolis on the Canadian-American border within this population size? Perhaps with 90% on the American side and 10% on the Canadian side. According to former Dean of Architecture at the University of Virginia, William McDonough, if new habitat designs do not have little or no pollution, that is because of faulty design. Maybe he would be a good consultant for you as he is also skilled in tv media work and has mc'd educational television programs. But there are surely many features of a Christopolis which would be a manifestation of faith in works. Surprise us. I agree with EEN that "many environmental problems are fundamentally spiritual ones". I wonder what SBTS could do by way of designing a Christopolis, noting that Professor Blaising has signed the "Evangelical Declaration on the Care of Creation". Do you remember the "Theory of Gates" from the Cold War? We said the proof as to which side was better could be established by opening the gates and seeing which way people went. Open the gates to a Christopolis, a city-built-anew which is superior to any other, designed by those who recognize that how we shape our environment is contingent upon our spirituality, and we will see which way the citizens of North America go. But you may lose out to the Buddhists. 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I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. Here in Vancouver with about 500,000 people living in 6 miles x 6 miles, ~30 lives are lost every year due to traffic fatalities. "Thou shalt not kill". A city of this size could be designed (let's say on the Canadian-American border) and traffic fatalities would be a rarity; perhaps they would never occur. Then there are lives lost due to air pollution. The Sierra Club of BC is going to court to argue that the "Life-Liberty-Security Clause" of the Canadian Constitution protects citizens against air pollution because air pollution also costs lives. Canada, as you may know, is about to sign the Kyoto Accord. While the provincial premiers are launching a protest, it may be that they can come up with even higher standards for new habitats. The Canadian-American population increases by 2-3,000,000 every year. Why not just one faith-based model Christopolis on the Canadian-American border within this population size? Perhaps with 90% on the American side and 10% on the Canadian side. According to former Dean of Architecture at the University of Virginia, William McDonough, if new habitat designs do not have little or no pollution, that is because of faulty design. Maybe he would be a good consultant for you as he is also skilled in tv media work and has mc'd educational television programs. But there are surely many features of a Christopolis which would be a manifestation of faith in works. Surprise us. I agree with EEN that "many environmental problems are fundamentally spiritual ones". I wonder what SBTS could do by way of designing a Christopolis, noting that Professor Blaising has signed the "Evangelical Declaration on the Care of Creation". Do you remember the "Theory of Gates" from the Cold War? We said the proof as to which side was better could be established by opening the gates and seeing which way people went. Open the gates to a Christopolis, a city-built-anew which is superior to any other, designed by those who recognize that how we shape our environment is contingent upon our spirituality, and we will see which way the citizens of North America go. But you may lose out to the Buddhists. POC --9B095B5ADSN=_01C2751996D3ADC500014C87exchange1.sbts.e-- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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