Incidentally, websites can and do go away.

If a CVE has a reference that's no longer valid, surely that doesn't
invalidate the CVE?

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:34 PM Chandan B.N. <
cnandakum...@paloaltonetworks.com> wrote:

> I agree that the CVE program has different purposes and goals than Twitter.
>
> I agree that the public reference requirement is a good thing.
>
>
> The example I gave on the call was this one:
> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2019-17444
>
>
> IIRC our researchers noticed undocumented admin privileged accounts with
> easy passwords that were seen in many real-world deployments of this
> product. The vendor acknowledged the problem and fixed it, but failed to
> mention either the issue or CVE-2019-17444 in release notes. Our
> researchers did not pursue publishing any blog on this topic - likely they
> had moved into doing new research.
>
>
> While this may be a corner case: The vendor and the researcher have
> decided they no longer have skin in the game. Don't the consumers and
> vulnerability management community still have skin in the game?  Especially
> when it is a real confirmed critical vulnerability in a popular tool used
> in many supply chains that could lead to yet another SolarWinds type of
> hack?
>
>
> What is the guidance to CNAs or CNA-LR when they get a request (and
> agreement) to assign a CVE to a real vulnerability (in emails, attached
> PoCs) but no clear public reference exists? not assign a CVE?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chandan
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:13 AM Noble, Kathleen <kathleen.no...@intel.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was going to jump in and say I see this as less a social medial
>> platform and more a Major Sports League. You want to play at the NBA you
>> play by the NBA's rules. The rules can change over time, but it doesn’t
>> make a lot of sense to change the game and remove the basket because a few
>> potential players are anti-basket.
>>
>> I agree we table the issue.
>>
>> Katie Noble
>> Director, Intel PSIRT and Bug Bounty
>> 503-207-8783
>> kathleen.no...@intel.com
>> Keybase: katienoble
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Landfield, Kent (Enterprise) <kent_landfi...@mcafee.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 10:19 AM
>> To: Gazlay, Jay <jay.gaz...@cisa.dhs.gov>; Manion, Art <aman...@cert.org>;
>> Chandan B.N. <cnandakum...@paloaltonetworks.com>; CVE Editorial Board
>> Discussion <cve-editorial-board-list@mitre.org>
>> Subject: Re: public reference requirement
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Thank you, Gracias, Grazie, Mahalo, 谢谢, Merci!, Σας ευχαριστώ!, Спасибо!,
>> Bedankt,Danke!, ありがとう, धन्यवाद!
>> --
>> Kent Landfield
>> McAfee Enterprise
>> +1.817.637.8026
>> kent_landfi...@mcafee.com
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/21, 5:42 AM, "Gazlay, Jay" <jay.gaz...@cisa.dhs.gov> wrote:
>>
>>     CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments
>> unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>>     Art,
>>
>>     I concur with your point and path forward.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     Jay
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: Art Manion <aman...@cert.org>
>>     Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:47 PM
>>     To: Chandan B.N. <cnandakum...@paloaltonetworks.com>; CVE Editorial
>> Board Discussion <cve-editorial-board-list@mitre.org>
>>     Subject: Re: public reference requirement
>>
>>     CAUTION: This email originated from outside of DHS. DO NOT click
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>> Contact your component SOC with questions or concerns.
>>
>>
>>     On 2021-08-18 16:58, Chandan B.N. wrote:
>>     > This is no different than how Twitter users are seen as being
>> responsible for their tweets and not Twitter Inc.,
>>
>>     I was trying to not bring this up :)
>>
>>     I'd say Twitter is much more of a platform with highly independent
>> contributors than the CVE Program currently is.  Twitter might not be a
>> common carrier ISP, but CVE is not a social media platform.
>>
>>     The author needs to bear responsibility for errors or bad behavior
>> and having only a CVE entry (today) is too much of a proxy.  Responsibility
>> is arguably more important than the content.
>>
>>     I think the program has moved and is moving towards being more
>> "content neutral" -- the upcoming Services and potential ADP pilot are
>> moves in that direction.  I'm confident we can sort out some of the content
>> quality requirements, we need more CNA identity in place.
>>
>>     I'll propose to table this for a year?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>       - Art
>>
>>
>
> --
> Sr Director, Product Security Assurance, Vulnerability Remediation, and
> PSIRT
> Palo Alto Networks https://security.paloaltonetworks.com/
>

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