First, I intend to give no offense but am honestly asking questions - how can 
you cheat in CB?  ...and why?  I am in my third game of CVW using CB and don't 
see how it is possible to cheat.  (Another part of me wonders why to cheat?  
Its not like we are playing for money, fame, glory or women?)  You open your 
opponents turn, perform your move and record the result - even if you discard 
the result - it still shows in the move registry.  So, I have heard that you 
can cheat - is this just suspicion?
     Second, the debate between Vassal and CB is one that springs up 
constantly.  I have downloaded both (and donated to both - these appear to be 
"noble" projects which deserve reward!) and looked at various "gameboxes".  I 
choose CB because it appears easier to modify (I LOVE playing variants) and my 
first opponents both preferred it).  Are there any arguements over why to 
prefer one to the other?
     Finally, I am probably going to get into a PBEM game of PoG and heard that 
ACTS is the way to go.  This interacts ONLY with CB?  or both?  How does it 
work and is there a cost?  Is there a cheating potential in that as well?
     I guess the reason why I question whether you can cheat or not is that 
every gamer feels that a fortunate turn of the dice against him might be 
cheating.  If you play FTF and see the "lucky" roll - you can't question it but 
if it happens over the net - your hackles rise and you wonder.  I'd prefer a 
world where we don't suspect our brother and everything is on the up and up.  I 
think the Leaders of Carthage, Rome and Thrace must have felt much the 
same......   Bob S

----- Original Message ----
From: John Gibbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2007 3:09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CBML] Looking help opponent to play Squad Leader on Cyberboard

Strongly suggest you look into VASL [ http://www.vasl. org/ ], the VASSAL engine
implementation of ASL. VERY well developed for ASL, with opportunities for live
play only, and a huge community to help out. This is not to detract one bit
from the quality and value of CB -- it's just that for ASL play, VASL
(especially with live chat) is for choice.

Having made that comparison, I'll note about the recent threat about the
relative merits of ACTS and CB play of CDGs, that the key thing ACTS does that
CB cannot really do, is to ensure that there is no cheating, because the ACTS
independently 'holds' and 'deals' the cards. You can do all that just on CB,
but you'd better know for sure that you opponent isn't fiddling with you. For a
lot of GMT's games played on ACTS, folks record simple moves on their OWN CB
copy, just to know where the units reside, and rarely need to exchange the CB
files, just reacting to the play just seen on ACTS by playing another card.

jdg
--- mapping3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

> Looking for an opponent to play a FIRST GAME of Squad leader on CYBERBOARD
> I played alot of FTF of SL decades ago and I am playing solo training games
> (Scenarioa 3 so 
> far), so while not a complete rookiie, I will not be very advanced until I
> relearn the system
> 
> mike G
> 
> 

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