how things going david?

>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 24 July 2000 17:09
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: [cc] Yet more ADSL info.
> 
> I must point out that there are plenty of others awaiting to jump on the
> ADSL bandwagon.  I personally will be hanging on for a short while longer
> until there is a real competitive edge to all the potential suppliers.  To
> date, the most impressive looking is the Demon offer, but...
> The Nildram service actually looks more expensive than BT's, kind of
> worrying really. Does this mean BT may be upping their prices too.
> 
> DaveS
> (below, as received from Nildram)
> 
> 
> ADSL is HERE!  (Well almost...) 
> Nildram are about to launch the innovative new ADSL service. 
> Unfortunately, due to delays at BT, our launch date will now be delayed
> until at least the end of July. We apologise for any inconvenience caused
> and are putting pressure on BT to get everything in place as soon as
> possible. As soon as we have a firm date we will let you know - watch this
> space... 
> Initially three services will be offered by through Nildram, optimised for
> business use and sharing a common contention ratio of 20:1. The following
> prices are for the standard BT service using NAT - Network Address
> Translation. 
> ADSL S500 - 512kbps download, 256kbps upload - �260 set-up and a monthly
> charge of �110.
> ADSL S1000 - 1Mbps download, 256kbps upload - �260 set-up and a monthly
> charge of �170.
> ADSL S2000 - 2Mbps download, 256kbps upload - �260 set-up and a monthly
> charge of �270.
> The set-up fee includes the supply of the necessary equipment and
> installation of the service by BT. Please note that you will still have to
> pay BT separately for any voice calls. 
> A version allowing specific real IP ranges to be used is to follow at a
> later date, along with a lower spec. service with a 50:1 contention ratio
> - keep an eye on the website at http://www.getadsl.co.uk for further news
> as it develops.
> Other companies will be offering ADSL, but only the Nildram service will
> connect you directly into the heart of the Nildram Network - one of the
> fastest in the UK! 
> We are now taking advance orders for this service - call our ADSL line on
> 0800 026 0950. 
>                       Regards,
> 
> ADSL Launch Team
> Nildram Limited - Real Service in a Virtual World
> http://www.nildram.net
> 
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From:   Lee (lunchbox) Hughes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent:   24 July 2000 13:16
>               To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>               Subject:        RE: [cc] RED TEAM GO, RED TEAM GO.....
> 
>               its around 50-60 , space is tight but were packing them in,
> I hopefully want
>               to offer free internet access, but
>               I don't know how to implement this, I don't want to
> disadvantage those in
>               the community who cannot afford
>               internet access, what a dilemma! any idea's? Memeber ship
> scheme's seem the
>               best way to go really.
> 
>               I'm looking at two time/config management solution
> 
>               digital access
>               and
>               nettime
> 
>               are there any other's that are 
>               a) cheap
>               b) good
>               c) fast
> 
>               I know it's a tall order!
>               Cheers,
>               Lee
> 
>               >  -----Original Message-----
>               > From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>               > Sent: 24 July 2000 12:42
>               > To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>               > Subject:      RE: [cc] RED TEAM GO, RED TEAM GO.....
>               > 
>               > Congratulations.
>               > 
>               > When do you expect to open and how big is large?
>               > 
>               >               -----Original Message-----
>               >               From:   Lee (lunchbox) Hughes
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               >               Sent:   21 July 2000 17:55
>               >               To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>               >               Subject:        [cc] RED TEAM GO, RED TEAM
> GO.....
>               > 
>               >               good news, people, I've been tendering for a
> large cybercafe
>               > in nottingham,
>               >               we got confirmation today and we have been
> awarded the
>               > contract (with flying
>               >               colours!)
>               >               I'd like to thank everyone on this list for
> idea's and help
>               > that it has
>               >               given us over the
>               >               last 2 years, big thanks to paul the list
> admin! ;-), and
>               > hopefully we can
>               >               get
>               >               the project underway, just as ADSL hit's the
>               > street....;-)....cool.
>               > 
>               >               See ya,
>               >               Keep it real.
>               >               Lee 
>               > 
>               > 
>               >               -----Original Message-----
>               >               From: Lee (lunchbox) Hughes
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               >               Sent: 21 July 2000 17:48
>               >               To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>               >               Subject: RE: [cc] More UK ADSL info
>               > 
>               > 
>               >               wow, those prices are incredible....looks
> like broadband
>               > cafe's are on the
>               >               way???
>               >               now what applications can we roll out now???
>               > 
>               >               >  -----Original Message-----
>               >               > From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               >               > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>               >               > Sent: 21 July 2000 16:54
>               >               > To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>               >               > Subject:      RE: [cc] More UK ADSL info
>               >               > 
>               >               >
>               >
> http://www.demon.net/info/demon_products/access/adsl-launch.shtml
>               >               > "Choice of NAT or non NAT IP address"!
> Rejoice!
>               >               > Now if only it didn't cost �175 a month
> for the really fat
>               > pipe...
>               >               > If you ever decide to go with the
> LAN/Internet cafe, this
>               > could be the
>               >               > connectivity solution you're looking for.
>               >               > 
>               >               > (Above:   as received from a colleague.)
>               >               > 
>               >               > 
>               >               > For those that have not heard, it seems
> that BT is holding
>               > out until the
>               >               > end of the year before rolling out ADSL.
>               >               > Being registered with BT for updates on
> this situation is
>               > a complete waste
>               >               > of time.  As usual, the BT rollout
> information is easier
>               > to find on the
>               >               > grapevine.
>               >               > 
>               >               > DaveS
>               > 
>               > 
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