RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft

[Lee Hughes]

Title: RE: [cc] interesting article about microsoft

Hey, you can't argue with that last statement..what ever floats you boat.... :-)...

 

I can feel a joke comming on but.....

 

did I share with you lot www.cybergeography.org ???

 

wow...It's a wonder the internet even works, never mind high speed :-)...

 

So, who's up for forming an ISP for Cybercafes???? or am I off my rocker again?

 

Cheers,

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Carrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 14:47
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft

Don't worry about it Lee, like I said everyone has an opinion, it's when it is based on fiction and not fact that I question it :-)

 

Larry Ellison is only one person in Oracle, they have some great software and really good services, Microsoft has some great software and services, some of the Linux companies stand their ground also, what ever floats you boat.

 

People on this list need to make a decision that is right for them  and their business, make it based on fact not fiction, if you really think Microsoft has secretly coded apps to spy and send everything back to big brother then you need help now. What would be the benefit of Microsoft seeing how you built your PC - come on get real here.......  and before any shouts cookies just about every web site uses them, if you don't want them disable it.  I have yet to see any Linux OS certified with C2 security - please let me know if this is incorrect by the way

 

hey if you want to have a PC without MS software then run format and start again install Linux and star office and enjoy - nobody is stopping you but yourself.  I cold go on and on and on and on etc but this has always been an emotional subject with people

 

 

Although I work for the company I am not brainwashed, I really see the benefit of bringing computing to the millions of people around the world in a format the average lay person is comfortable with, your average Joe does not stand a chance with some other OS.

 

 

any comments in this email are mine only and are not to be associated with Microsoft in any way

 

Scott Carrie MCSE CNE/CNA

on behalf of www.quarks.co.uk not Microsoft :-)

 

 

 

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Lee Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 14:05
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about microsoft

Scott, sorry about the stuff about microsoft... ;-)..

 

we use it all the time...I guess microsoft do get a lot of bad press, it's the company the people

love to hate, but in the 'real' world, I trust good old billy geek gates, than that larry dude from oracle..

now's if he's not a power mad crazy dictator of the new order......then I'm the pope on dope.

 

Cheers,

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Carrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 10:27
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Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about microsoft

ASP has nothing to do with open source !

-----Original Message-----
From: Anders Blauenfeldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 09:50
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Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about microsoft

 

Yeah .. ASP can very well be the thing that saved proprietary software.

 

How long will it take before a substantional amount of the cyber cafes around are offering open source software only ?

 

 

/Anders Blauenfeldt

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dorward, Scott
Sent: 9. november 2000 10:19
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about microsoft

> I can't even buy a gateway computer without
> a microsoft operating system.

I'm not sure if MS still use the infamous "per processor" licensing agreements with OEMs, but if this is still the case then it's not in Gateway's economic interests to sell PCs without MS Operating systems, as they still have to pay for one even if they don't install it.  In fact, in the early nineties, Dell tried swallowing this cost and pre-installing OS/2 on 10% of their boxes.  Microsoft raised the price Dell were paying for DOS/Windows until they stopped doing it. (Warning - I'm pulling these details out from memory and there may be some variance with what actually happened. :) )

> It wouldn't even work if
> I tried to use UNIX instead, because the modem is a
> "win" modem.

Try: http://linmodems.org/  There are drivers for most (but not all) of the popular Winmodem chipsets.

> Are M.$. OSes/Apps.:
> More stable? "It should be called windows Blue Screen
> of Death."

To be fair, my experience of NT/Win2K is that if it's administered properly it's almost as stable as UNIX.  Your other points to do with control, security, etc. all ring painfully true, though.

> Imagine if you bought a boat and were told you
> couldn't rent it or loan it to others? What if you
> were sold a horse and told that only one person could
> ride it? So what gives software sellers the right to
> say how you can use the computer you bought?

The fundamental difference is that if you buy a horse or a boat you can't give copies of it to other people without giving up your own.

- Scott