I run 10 Internet sites opening another 2 shortly. All my sites are coin box
operated. The coin box has a counter, required by local tax authorities, in
them. Open box simple command on internal keypad displays amount of cash in
box.

I installed my first coinbox December 1999 and have gradually converted all
my sites to coinbox operation.

Benefits:

        No fights about how long a customer has been on the     computer.

        No need for time consuming work on how much money

        Little effort required by site staff (they may have     to give change)

Prior to installing coinboxes I used Cybertime (in the large site) or a
manual system (in the small sites)

If you want to discuss this further e-mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dick
www.internet-here.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ipoh Mali
> Sent: 17 December 2000 11:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [cc] ADVISES
>
>
> Interesting. I came across a CC which uses these coinbox operated
> PCs when I
> was in my wife's hometown.  I think it saves the owner plenty of
> time since
> all he needs to do at day end is to calculate the coins or tokens,then
> recycle them the next day.  I was reluctant to use timing
> software because I
> saw my friend's CC is having some problems when the PCs sometimes crashed
> due to the software.
>
> Up until now I'm still using a quick basic program written by myself to
> calculate the time usage and charges, then jot it down in my CC
> logbook for
> book keeping purpose.  I think the coinbox technic can save
> plenty of time,
> and above all, it benefits the owner since one doesn't have to
> cope with the
> refund issue so much.  Sometimes there are clients who ask for
> unreasonable
> refund or simply say they've forgot to bring any money..... you get the
> picture.  Since it is token/coin-operated, one has to pay before he uses
> anything, thus solving above issues and no hanky panky from the
> cashier as
> well.  How nice if I could count my tokens/money at day end instead of
> working day and nite doing book keeping.  BTW, I wonder what is in these
> CPU-like coinbox ? How could I get my hands on them in Malaysia
> ????? Anyone
> has tried them out successfully ?????
>
> WW Yong
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Malaysia
>
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> >I used to use CT but stopped using it because I found what I considered a
> >major flaw.
> >
> >CT does not lock a workstation if it cannot find the server.
> >
> >This was a problem in my environment with frequent power failures.
> >
> >I now use coinbox operated computers that I developed.
> >
> >Dick
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bas
> > > Sent: 16 December 2000 14:19
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> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > i'm planning to open a cyber cafe and i need comments on the
> architecure
> > > you'll find next.
> > > Thanks for any comments
> > >
> > > Wireless Leased Line at 64K with an ISP
> > > Cisco router 1605 doing NAT
> > > NT server or W2000 server with a proxy cache on it (Wingate or MS
> > > proxy) and
> > > Cyber time to manage the cybercafe
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Bassem
> > >
> > >
> > >
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