we've got 9 PC's and a win2000 server handeling out NAT service with a 20-1 
contention over a 2 Mbit ADSL line =] it works great! especially off peak 
when most businesses are not using their connections =)

When will BT be "rolling out" DSL connections..? where will the trials 
start..? will Leased line prices be coming down..?

Is there anywhere on the internet which say how well ADSL is doing in the 
UK..?

And.. I'm still waiting for my ADSL at home! =] when will i get it..? hehe

regards

Richie
Click Cafe
Bath


From: "John Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [cc] starting a new cafe in London
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:28:35 -0000

Richie,

I would be very interested if you could tell me how many users ( PC's) you
managed to support in practise on  the ADLS connection.
What method(s)  did you use to get round the limitation.
What contentions have you  and did you go for the 500 or 1000kb/s service?

Your right I had some good feedback regarding the ADLS service from other
users.

Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: Richie Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 January 2001 12:08
Subject: Re: [cc] starting a new cafe in London


 >Go for ADSL! It's much cheaper than a leased line solution! the line also
 >has the potential to be alot faster than a low cost(ish) leased line.
 >
 >We've just set up a cafe here in Bath and ADSL is great. We'd recomend it!
 >
 >Rich
 >Click-Cafe
 >Bath
 >
 >
 >From: "John Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >Subject: Re: [cc] starting a new cafe in London
 >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:54:43 -0000
 >
 >Shahid,
 >
 >I work for BT and we have a nice example of a low cost complete cafe
 >solution in Stoke, Festival Park. This was everthing - network ISP usage 
PC
 >software firewall content filter.
 >
 >We can quote for all the elements you need.
 >Is this  in proof of concept phase? Do you want it cheap or scalable, do
you
 >need games?
 >
 >
 >The client is able to onward sell the concept and they would be in a
 >position to supply a carbon copy to your self..
 >
 >
 >Please let me know what you are doing and timescales and I might be able 
to
 >help.
 >
 >My assumption is that you would like us to take the technical headache 
away
 >and allow you to develop the 1st line support, cus service, and creative
 >business development as part of your core business.
 >
 >Let me know if you would like to know more
 >
 >John Hoffman
 >07889 751 542
 >     -----Original Message-----
 >     From: Shahid Halling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >     Date: 31 December 2000 15:16
 >     Subject: [cc] starting a new cafe in London
 >
 >
 >     Hi all,
 >
 >     Im looking to set up a cybercafe from scratch in West London, UK and
 >was wondering if any of you guys could give me some idea as the how much a
 >setup would cost and a rough idea as to kind of returns I can expect to
 >make. Im looking to start off with about 10 machines and probably get a
 >leased line from a good ISP and also have photocopying/fax and possibly
 >training facilities in house too. Is this the best way to approach this?
How
 >much initial cost am i looking at? What kind of leased line would be best?
 >Is there still a profitable market in setting up an Internet cafe due to
the
 >influx of free ISP's(am i wasting my time altogether???). All
ideas/comments
 >would be most appreciated. Naturally id like feedback from people based in
 >the UK, but everyone elses comments would be valuable too
 >
 >     Thanks
 >
 >     S.Halling
 >
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