From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<You're part of this equation IG, so you come in for a bit of stick I'm afraid. But no-one's calling you a Nazi.>> OK, fair comment, I was probably overdoing the irony bit. I'm a little sensitive about nazi's. Actually, I tend to agree with most of what you say. I can see that the police service is heading down the wrong road. It is headed by far too many politically sensitive types, who are more interested in their career and promotion prospects than in the actual rights and wrongs of what policies they pursue. Classic examples that make me cringe are the blatant intimidation of wagon drivers by pushing video cameras into their faces, by creating exclusion zones, by closing off city centres so football matches can take place, the treatment of protesters at the visit of the Chinese prime minister, etc etc. I can think of many more examples, as I am sure that most contributors can The list of lost freedoms over the past 10 years is heartbreaking. There are more to come.....my freedom to foxhunt will be lost soon, I can't buy my veg in lbs and ozs, I wll be forced to use the Euro as currency, to obey laws passed by the EU, etc. As another contributor said, a society gets the police it deserves, the men and women being a microcosm of society in general. IG -- I don't want to get too off-topic here but I was under the impression the law said that traders had to show metric measurements, but they could use any other measurement they wanted in addition to metric. Having been taught only metric in school and having lived in the US for six years, I have no clue about the Imperial system at all other than some of the measurements sound the same as US measurements but are actually different, so I support the idea of requiring merchants to use a system of measurement I understand! One thing that does seriously nark me off is CNN International and the reporters always use US measurements in their stories. How is anyone in Europe going to understand what they're talking about? A copper asked me how tall I was last week. "1.78 metres" says I. He didn't have a clue what I was on about! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics