From:   "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Calibre 9mm, pistol P08 Artillery model, powder, cut open shot gun shells, 
>bullet weight, 120 grns, metal, melted from spent bullets, source, the 
>local army range, weight of charge, opened some 9mm sten & weighed them. 
>First shot (at 20yds) roared like a lion, could see no hole on target thro 
>scope, next round same, 3rd round, again with a roar, felt some thing brush 
>thro my hair. At this stage I stopped, first two cases had'nt properly 
>ejected, so I could examine them 3rd case was still in the chamber.
>
>What brushed thro my hair was the case extractor, found it embeded in the 
>boards behind me, case in chamber had a neat hole in it, right under the 
>extractor, 1st two cases had a layer of lead bullet still in the case 
>mouth, funnel shaped. Marks on target like they had been splattered with 
>molten lead.

This reminds me of two incidents down here in deepest hampshire, the first 
involved a police offcer (IIRC) who had hand loaded some ammo, when stripped 
some cases were under charged, others over, he wasn't so lucky, the link 
broke and the toggle embedded its self in his fore-head killing him 
instantly.....
The second involved a chap teaching his 11 year old girl to shoot, he'd down 
loaded some 38's for use in his old smith, several hang fires and very 
difficult extraction (hammering the rod on the bench edge to get the empties 
out) didn't put him off, the hang-fire that went after indexing the next 
chamber did, along with a scorched hand, thankfully he'd stopped cradling 
the gun around the front of the cylinder by then as it was spitting hot lead 
out sideways through the cylinder gap. She eventually learned to shoot with 
a club 22 semi, better shot than him too!

Niel.


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