Bobby McNulty <bobbymcn <at> bellsouth.net> writes: > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote: > > > > > >>Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I'm not installing cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is > >>>>resolved. One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden. Which > >>>>I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port > >>>>won't work,. The KDE port won't work either. Get Harold Hunt back > >>>>here to fix this. The current maintainers have no idea what they are > >>>>doing. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look. > >>> > >>>As I've said it was working for me until last week. I've not received > >>>any useful data which may help tracking this down. > >>> > >>>Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good. If not then stop > >>>insulting me or do it better. > >>> > >>>bye ago, enraged > >>> > >>> > >>Alex, I think the problem is with setup. Because when setup gets to > >>the fontserver, where 4 people are complaining so far, it stalls on a > >>readme file. > >> > >> > > > >It works fine for me. Just tried it. > > > >You've been reading the cygwin mailing list long enough to know that you > >have not provided the slightest shred of useful data > > > >Bobby, either provide useful information or just shut up. Telling > >everyone what you are going to do or not going to do and insulting > >people is totally unproductive. > > > >Do me a favor and don't even respond to this email. Either provide some > >details or just be quiet. Useful details might be, for example, "ps -ef" > >output. > > > >cgf > > > > > > > OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file > that it is hanging at. > Cygwin setup is at 97% > it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2 > /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README > > its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point. > >
I'm about to say something that surely is going to upset some people here. Try not to get mad at me anyway. Warning: if you are not open-minded kind of person, you're advised to skip everyting below. This issue was first reported by Bobby McNulty on 03/11. Then on 04/11 Ling F. Zhang reported the same problem and said he was the third one to report the problem although I still can't find that second one. Ling asked the same question again on 06/11 providing some more information. I posted the same question on 06/11 confirming the issue and providing quite detailed information (I think). All these were in cygwin section. Now you can count how many people had been having this problem. Nobody was interested in the issue until Bobby spoke up yesterday. I think what he said was perfectly all right and reasonable. I myself have also been waiting for this setup issue to be resolved before I install Cygwin on this new computer. I last installed Cygwin in Dec 2003 and I've just got a new computer and installed a fresh clean Windows XP and want to install the latest Cygwin in full. I don't want to skip the X part and install it manually afterwards as I have no idea if that would do exactly the same thing. The setup.exe should do the installation job properly. As for what our two develpers said, I do respect them for what they do for us but I wouldn't tell my users to shut up like that. Being a volunteer doing things for people for free doesn't give you the right to do that. You need the users and the users need you. It is simple, you either do it your best or you don't do it at all. There are people who can do better or have done better as Bobby implied. You should listen to what users have to say. Not just praise you also have to listen to criticism. All can be constructive depends on how you look at it and how open-minded you are. You shouldn't tell your users to come do what you're doing if they think they can do better. That reminds me of politicians in some third-world countries. You should have done better in this case. You should ask for more information from users instead of assuming everyone knows what information they should provide or telling them to shut up when they don't do what you think they should do. They are not as genius as you otherwise they wouldn't be here asking for help. What Bobby and Carlo reported yesterday and today are the same thing I already reported 3 days ago. In fact I even gave more information. Like, the error points were different between archives from different mirror sites. That post of mine was cited in yesterday posts did anyone take a look at it before asking Bobby for more information? He also mentioned 4 people had been complaining did anyone check those posts by those 4 people? Also I had no idea you could do "ps -ef" while installing Cygwin. Now, I think that's more than enough to get myself flamed for today. Feel free to do so I'm open to all sorts of criticism. Oh, there is more information I can give. My OS is Windows XP SP1. So it's not only XP SP2 that is having this problem. Also I have my Symantec Antivirus Corp Ed 8.1.1 turned off in Windows' Services before starting the installation. Christopher when you said "It works fine for me. Just tried it." what did you do? Can you give more details like I gave in my first post? Like, which mirror site did you downloaded the archive from, your OS, etc.? Like I said different mirror sites gave different error points here. Maybe your mirror site has the most perfect copy of the archive which gives no errors at all. I really wanna try that. Is there anyway to turn on setup.exe's debugging so that we all can test to see what it's looping for at 97% or 99%? Best Regards.
