On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:09:11PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 01:15 PM 03/30/2003 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > IIRC, the protestants aren't Irish, they are Brits, the remainder of > >the brit > >occupying forces. The Irish were essentially slaves of the brits for > >centuries. > > You don't remember correctly. Most of the Protestants in Ulster > were moved there in the 1700s from Scotland during the conquests there. > It took care of two problems at once - displacing a lot of the Irish, > and getting a lot of uncooperative Scots out of Scotland. >
ahh, that's what it was. I knew they weren't Irish at any rate. > > But of course, the problems really pre-date all that, going back to > when the > >christer Romans came and killed off the Druids and Wiccans who wouldn't > >bend the > >knee to conversion, as they did in the rest of Europe. > > While there was some of that, there wasn't much, > particularly in Scandinavia - Norse Odinism was a pretty depressing > religion, > and the population converted at least nominally very quickly, > though it took a while to get concepts like "Don't kill" and "Don't steal" > accepted as widely as "Don't sacrifice people to the old gods", > given that viking was a standard part of the Viking economy. > The number of women, in particular, who were murdered by the church is pretty high, not just during the initial "conversion" but also during the following Inquistion. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com We are now in America's Darkest Hour. http://www.oshkoshbygosh.org hoka hey!
