At 12:42 AM -0400 9/20/00, Asymmetric wrote:
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>First off, let me point THIS out to you...
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>A search on excite for +cypherpunks +list turns up a great deal of sites...
>
>The first site, "VERONA cypherpunks archives" has a link called
>"List Information", which goes nowhere.
>The second site, obscura.com has several links but no mention of the
>list itself.
>The third, fourth, fifth, sixth and ninth sites, the cypherpunks
>hyperarchive at inet-one.com, has a copy of an email message
>DIRECTED AT THE TOAD.COM ADDRESS that comes up first in the search,
>followed by some others.
>The SEVENTH site is homeport.org, and the first link on the site is
>to "The Cypherpunks Homepage" pointing to an FTP archive at
>berkeley, and has a link to the mailing list. This link
>specifically tells you TO use the toad.com address.
>
>So who is being ignorant exactly? You go to a page claiming to be
>the "Cypherpunks Homepage" and it says the mailing list is
>@toad.com??
The past is its own problem. We in the present are not responsible
for the accumulated detritus from dead and defunct sites.
Wake up and get a clue.
>Why don't you blame the asshole responsible for that site before
>blaming people who did their due diligence and turned up toad.com
>again and again? As it happens, this "homepage" makes no mention
>whatsoever about the other filtered lists.. not that I didn't know
>about Coderpunks or the others, but if you don't know, they aren't
>easy to just "bump into." This berkeley.edu site is the only site
>I've run across ever claiming to be "The Homepage" and I believe it
>to be the closest thing there is to one. So, kindly, shove it.
Are you dumb, or just ignorant? That someone set up a "Cypherpunks
home page" several years ago means nothing. That no one has done it
since means much more...it means those since who read the list
understand the churlishness of presuming to set up a "home page.
A point lost on you, "Asymmetric," the same "Asymmetric" who says
that anyone wishing to read the list should do so under his or her
true name.
>
>But, on a related note...
>
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>Hey kettle, this is the pot. Did you happen to notice you're black?
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Did you notice the _real_ list I copied? Check the above block.
I copied the list the untermenschen hang out on just to make sure you'd see it.
--Tim May
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