On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:05 AM juan <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:56:56 -0400 > John <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On July 21, 2016 5:21:04 AM EDT, juan <[email protected]> wrote: > > >On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:51:49 +0000 > > >Sean Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM juan <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:44:16 +0300 > > >> > Georgi Guninski <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the alternatives > > >> > > and move to something allegedly better? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > We need to get rid of tor first. Resources wasted on tor > > >are > > >> > resources that can't be used in good projects. > > >> > > > >> > > >> They are not your resources to redirect, > > > > > > No they are not mine. They belong to the people who the US > > > gov't/military robs. No taxes no tor. > > > > Well, phrasing I guess, but most of the relays just belong to > > volunteers. > > Apologies John, I really don't mean to pick on you > personally. > > I'd point out though that the organization exists thanks to > state funding. The whole thing would be rather different if all > the participants were volunteers. > > (are all high speed nodes also run by and paid for volunteers?) >
Whatever I may think of your other beliefs about the organization, the funding model is definitely a problem. Same goes for Mozilla taking money from Google, MS, eBay, etc. Organizations building important infrastructure need to be independent. > > > I run a relay most of the time, although I dont consider > > it one of the top 5 or even top 10 services I maintain on that > > particular box... It's kind of just a half ass interesting service to > > fuck with occasionally. > > > > John > > > > > > > >
