On 08/28/2016 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
> http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/26/technology/hillary-clinton-bleachbit/
> 
> 
> "Jonathan Zdziarski, a computer security expert, characterized BleachBit
> as a fairly "amateur" tool that doesn't raise any red flags.
> "It looks like the type of tool someone would run who's conscious of
> cleaning old crud off their system," Zdziarski said. "Someone trying to
> cover their tracks would likely pay for and use a much more expensive,
> specialized data destruction tool.""
> 
> To me, this looks clueless.  My assumption is that Bleachbit is software
> that overwrites data
> on a hard disk a few times, in order to make it un-recoverable even with
> 'heroic" means.
> I recall reading, 25-30 years ago, that some government agency (perhaps
> it was the NSA?)
> had a standard that required the re-writing of new, random data onto a
> location which had 
> previously stored secret data 5 times, in order to guarantee that the
> old data was completely
> unrecoverable.  
> Since then, the vast increase in the amount of data put in a given area,
> as well as new 
> encoding/reading techniques (such as GMR data detection) have probably
> reduced the number 
> overwrites necessary to completely efface earlier data.  I suppose 3
> times is probably 
> sufficient, today.
> If Clinton's minions really used Bleachbit, this seems to be a virtual
> admission of guilt to
> whatever they are suspected of.  It was bad enough when their lawyers
> assisted her by,
> in part, totally erasing the data.  (rather than keeping a copy of the
> original data if it is 
> later needed.)
> 
> But Clinton is stupid, because we can reasonably assume that somebody
> obtained a
> copy of these emails, the NSA if nobody else.   They should release
> them, now, to ensure that
> that evil woman is sent packing.  There's a prison cell waiting for her.
>             Jim Bell


Bonehead me used bleachbit as root to clean my normal user directory
structure and watched it, for some reason I never bothered to follow up,
wipe everything back to pristine install state a while back.

Sigh... But the interesting thing when attempting to recover my doc,
pic, music, etc files is that they were divided into standard size
chunks (making music recovery problematic > impossible).

If all Hillary's people did was a standard cleaning, that WOULD BE
amateur, and the data would be potentially recoverable. Bleachbit CAN do
multipass Zero writeovers, but that's not the standard setting.

Rr

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