On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:08:00 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote:
> As Juan (and others) has so eloquently pointed out so many times, we
> do not have democracy, and we have never seen democracy.
I don't think I said that. We certainly have democracy if we go
by common definitions of democracy.
What we never had is a liberal system where people's rights are
respected. Or we never had a system based on individual
self-government. But I don't think that's usually called
democracy.
