This should have had Subject: "part 1" sorry... Also, this part 1 for some strange reason failed to appear... Z
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 01:09:07PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > The eternal vigilance we must display when we have relatively solid > foundations, as we do in Australia notwithstanding the mostly self > serving corrup politicians and other power brokers, is notable. > > At least once a year, those behind the scenes to to fuck us over in > Australia, with deceptive and undermining "public discourse". > > And roughly every 10 to 20 years, TPTB actually run a referendum to > try to turn Australia into a republic, on one or another "emotive, > politically correct, hot social topic of the day" such as: > > - "recognizing" Aboriginals in the constitution so the parliament > can pass laws specifically about them (pro- or anti-) thus > instituting a constitutionally racist regime > > - getting rid of "the Queen" or "the Crown" or "the Monarch" as head > of state because "surely we got ta have an Australian as head of > state" (the current topic du jour), which is hogwash, since the > ultimate Australian head of state is only titular anyway (i.e. > holding no significant power except some power to declare war, > which has always been left to our parliament anyway) > > - turning us into a republic, because "republics are wonderful, just > look at America" > > > In all cases, the public discourse as lead by TPTB is deceptive and > highly narrow - the LEGAL foundations within our current system/ > federal Australian constitution, are always ignored (except that we > in the public open our eyes to the deception and have the > conversation we need to have), such as the following legal > foundations: > > - invocation of the Blessing of Almighty God > (legally, a GREAT foundation to have in any constitution) > > - the Crown/ the parliament of the UK > (legally good for us since it brings in Magna Charta, Bill of > Rights (old English/imperial bill of rights - i.e. William and > Mary Cess.) and other imperial legislation some of which is > absolutely in our interests as individual humans within Australia. > > > Alas, the powers that be don't like the fact of the existence of the > Blessing of Almighty God at the foundation of our Australian federal > Constitution! > > They also don't like the fact that our forefathers discussed in the > constitution debates, and specifically spoke "the supreme absolute > and uncontrollable authority remains with the people". > > > And so, as to be expected, The Powers That Be continue to try to > undermine these (by any modern standards) very good, foundations that > we have in Austalia. > > Regards, > Zenaan > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> ----- > > From: Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> > To: Charles Mollison <cobbscross...@bigpond.com> > Cc: 'John Wilson' <jhwil...@rightsandwrong.com.au>, 'Doug Harrison' > <dougharrison1...@gmail.com>, 'RAY PLATT' <raypl...@iinet.net.au>, 'Rena > Iliades' <facr...@gmail.com>, 'Bev' > <lbpatten...@bordernet.com.au>, 'Mark B' <underthewire...@gmail.com>, > cppe...@mindspring.com, debi...@yahoo.com.au, darry...@hotmail.com, > daved...@iprimus.com.au, dprin...@alphalink.com.au, > 'Peter Lindsay' <ewenme.lind...@gmail.com>, 'Mark Filby' > <markfi...@hotmail.com>, fl...@reachnet.com.au, 'Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka' > <inspector_rik...@yahoo.com.au>, granddu...@hotmail.com, > gregcadwalla...@hotmail.com, 'George Gault' <georgegau...@gmail.com>, > 'Jim' <jim.sovere...@optusnet.com.au>, johng...@bigpond.com, 'Jim MacLeod' > <jim.macl...@nor.com.au>, 'JohnV' > <jve...@dodo.com.au>, knowyourrig...@ratfm.com, l...@aldoda.com, > marsiergn2...@yahoo.com.au, nma...@bigpond.net.au, > ozlibera...@skymesh.com.au, peterfo...@ozunited.com, "'Us @ SumOfUs'" > <u...@sumofus.org>, and...@colonialleather.com.au, > timbodedid...@gmail.com, beatonmydr...@aol.com, fenja_schu...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 12:44:52 +1000 > Subject: Re: republican fools > > On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 11:16:39AM +1000, Charles Mollison wrote: > > We would all do well to take note of John Wilson’s wise words here below. > > > > However, a new Constitution could fix all these problems if it is > > properly drafted. (Whether or not it be for a Constitutional > > Monarchy OR a Democratic Republic.) > > Please stop spreading such rubbish! > > Per the Quick and Garran annotations and the foundational hansard > conferences and debates: > > "The supreme absolute and uncontrollable authority remains with the > people." > > Those who push for change are failing to see that we in Australia, > > already have one of the finest constitutions, IN THE WORLD! > > > We cannot grant to ourselves MORE authority than we, the people, are > already declared to have, by our CURRENT constitution. > > > The ONLY problems are that people DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH, they don't > know what we already have, such as we already have a Bill of Rights!! > > (The old English bill of rights - William and Mary Cess.) > > > ALL we have to do is start LIVING the rights we already have. > > > The current foundation of our federal constitution in Australia is > about as good as it gets, for us/ we the people. > > Sure, there are a FEW relatively minor areas for improvement, but ANY > MAJOR CHANGE will all but certainly DESTROY the incredibly powerful > and protective foundations that we already have. > > > Your words "a new Constitution could fix all these problems" are > deceptive. > > Your deceptive words might be deceptive due to a need for > understanding on your part. I hope that's the only reason you are > spreading deceptive words. > > Your words suggesting a "Democratic Republic" would be acceptable are > also deceptive - "Whether or not it be for a Constitutional > Monarchy OR a Democratic Republic." > > > Charles Mollison, please STOP using deceptive words. > > As Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka, Jim Stephanovski, Malcolm McClure, Joyn > Wilson and many others have said, CORRECTLY I add: > > A republic puts the parliament OVER we the people! > > > When you suggest or imply in your words to people that a republic is > a reasonable option, you are making a false and or deceptive > suggestion to people. > > Please STOP making false and deceptive suggestions to people. > > > Another awesome foundation in our CURRENT constitution, just another > of the reasons we have one of the greatest constitutions in the > world, is that our Australian federal constitution affirms at its > foundation, the Blessing of Almighty God. > > This affirmation that our constitution is founded "humbly relying on > the Blessing of Almighty God" is one of the most powerful legal > foundations that we can, individually, rely upon, in the courts in > Australia! > > This Blessing of Almighty God, as it is SPECIFICALLY AFFIRMED AND > WORDED/ CONSTRUCTED in our Australia federal constitution, > > > Fellow Australians, let's PROTECT the awesome LEGAL FOUNDATIONS in > our current Australian federal constitution! Let's protect those > great affirmations and legal constructions in the very foundation of > our Australian constitutional monarchy which our forefathers so > wisely handed to us on a silver plate! > > > Let us continue to remind those who misrepresent the truth of our > powerful Australian constitutional monarchy - powerful for we the > people, powerful legal foundations, humbly affirming the sovereignty > of we the people as ABOVE the parliaments and bloody and > opportunistic politicians who want MORE authority, which they can > only take from us by DESTROYING those foundations that we already > have in our existing Australian federal constitution! > > > > > > The Foundation for National Renewal has drafted such a new > > Constitution. It is available from FNR at cobbscross...@bigpond.com > > <mailto:cobbscross...@bigpond.com> . ($10 plus P&P). Although only > > a draft, we believe it has answers for all the warnings John Wilson > > raises in his article below. > > Your approach is opportunistic. > > Your requirement for money to engage in any such conversation is > fundamentally at odds with the modern reality. > > Your implication of "special authority and insight" from yourself and > or those you associate with is ABSOLUTELY OBJECTIONABLE! > > How DARE you assert (by implication or otherwise) to the rest of us > that we cannot think for ourselves, or cannot engage fully in the > very foundation of EVERY conversation potentially affective our > future! > > How dare you use deceptive, condescending and fundamentally > undermining words! > > > Your approach is fundamentally wrong, deceptive and flawed. > > > And the biggest joke is that even the attachments you send have major > problems, and you are probably so unaware as to realise what those > problems are.. it would be funny if it wasn't so sad. > > > > > Check it out. > > At least the subject is appropriate - "republican fools" indeed. > > > Charles Mollison your foundations are flawed, your execution is > flawed, and the words you continue to use are deceptive! > > > Your intentions may be good, in which case you have much to learn, > and I implore you to please stop using words which deceive our fellow > Australians and encourage the ignorant to walk in directions which > are absolutely detrimental to our common individual and shared > collective authority and well legal being!! > > If you are truly sincere, please read some of Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka's > books, or some of Andrew Moyles letters and court submissions, or > damn, read some of our existing federal constitution! > > If you are truly sincere, you would have involved yourself in the > various discussions that happen in our community in last two decades! > But we have not seen you be involved. > > - When Gerrit was in court, Charles where were you with your support > and review of his documents? > > - When Mr Moyle was supporting others in court, where were you > Charles with your support? > > - When Mr Stefanovski brought to our attention the court cases of > fellow Australians, when Mr Wilson and his crew were in court and > beating the "trial by jury" drum, > > WHERE WERE YOU Mr Charles Mollison?!! > > - and dozens of other examples ... > > > Charles, you prance onto the scene, charging for some "new solution > to all our problems", made by folks who you imply "know how to > PROPERLY draft a constitution", SO MUCH BETTER than the dozens of > men and women and 100s if not 1000s more behind the scenes who > drafted our current constitution over 100 years ago - and you expect > us to run along with your implication that "BAH! What would all > those founding fathers know! They were so stooopid they did not even > know how to PROPERLY draft a constitution!" > > The conceit and pride you have just displayed Mr Charles Mollison! > > "Oh what would 100s of founding fathers diligently meeting > and discussing over 15 years even know!" > > > > > The only real problem is the ratbags getting elected, good people > failing to stand for election and failing to unite with other good > people, those in power who abuse their power (regardless of what any > "constitution" says), and the lack of education of our fellow > Australians about our awesome foundations and how to use those > foundations! > > > > > WE NEED A NEW CONSTITUTION LIKE WE NEED FLOURIDE IN OUR WATER. > > > > > A shout out to all those who who stand and solid foundations, > including: > > - Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka, valiantly and consistently defending the > true foundations of our excellent federal constitution > > - Malcolm McClure, who tought me and many others the value of > standing on solid foundations of our constitution, Magna Carta, > Bill of Rights and more, in the courts > > - John Wilson, religiously beating the drum on the importance of our > CONSTITUTIONAL foundation of trial by jury and its eminent remedial > utility > > - Jim Stefanovski, steadfastly engaging us all in the public > discourse, making valiant individual stand, and providing moral > support to others who try to stand as well > > - Andrew Moyle, ever vigilant on our Australian foundations and > supporting those he can > > > There are so many others, many still with us, still standing and > still speaking out well and strong like Ray Platt, and others who > have gone before and, who made incredible stands, true credits to > Australia as a nation. > > > Let's all do a little bit more, perhaps read one foundation document > (or section) per month that we have not yet read, perhaps giving > moral support to those who make a true stand (as best we can > ascertain individually), and let us be eternally vigilant against the > forces of deception and destruction, against those conversations and > against those actions that would and do undermine us, undermine our > fellow Aussies, and undermine the very foundations which are good and > wholesome and which have proven the test of time DESPITE far too many > ratbags getting into power just to serve themselves and their > crony mates! > > > Eternal vigilance fellow freedom fighters - eternal vigilance. > > > Respectfully to all those who uphold our truly good and wholesome > foundations in our Australian federal constitution, our > "constitutional monarchy", > > Zenaan Harkness, > Victoria, Australia > > ----- End forwarded message -----