On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 3:52:55 PM PDT, Marina Brown 
<catskillmar...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
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On 03/22/2018 04:41 PM, jim bell wrote:
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> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 12:30:10 PM PDT, juan
> <juan....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:27 +0000 (UTC) jim bell
> <jdb10...@yahoo.com <mailto:jdb10...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>> I notice that you don't distinguish between public (government) 
>> borders and private (private property) borders.  Why is that?I
>> oppose government borders.  But I believe in the concept of
>> private property, which amounts to the right to exclude others
>> from that property.  We live on the surface (2 dimensional, more
>> or less) of a sphere (Earth) and we desire to travel and have
>> goods (and information) brought to us.  That will require that
>> roads
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>> Come on Jim. I already refuted your right wing, fake
> libertarian garbage.
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> Utter and complete nonsense.
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>> And it's quite funny how an engineer isn't
> aware of the fact that there is AIR TRAVEL and SEA TRAVEL and that
> right-wing fake 'anarchists' haven't claimed to own the SEA and the
> SkY, at least YET.
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> I was not including air travel and sea travel because I didn't
> consider it relevant to the current discussion.
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>> So, please stop defending STATE BORDERS like you did and stop
> wholly misrepresenting libertarian philosphy.
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> I think I already said that I opposed government borders.
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>> For what it's worth, I also oppose it when government requires
>> people to show some sort of identification in order to travel.
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> Do you really? But that's what happens when ICE DOES ITS JOB eh?
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>For someone who supports freedom of travel and who opposes the
>requirement of papers - what legitimate "job" does ICE do ?
BTW, your quotation makes it appear that _I_ said, "But that's what happens 
when ICE DOES ITS JOB".
Please go back and show that 1.  You are addressing my comment.     OR2.  You 
are addressing somebody else's comment.  


>Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs
>programs to satisfy authoritarians.


I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.    

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