On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:41:41 -0400
Marina Brown <catskillmar...@gmail.com> wrote:


> Sorry - i thought that was you were saying.
        
        It is quite clear what Jim was saying. It's kinda dumb to quote
        him again, but here it goes. Of course one can look at the 1
        day old whole message which is a typical anti-immigration
        right-wing rant. 



        "When I suggest that illegal re-entry is a 'victimless crime',
        that does not mean that there are not other crimes which
        illegal re-entry employs (such as people-smuggling) and
        further, crimes that it enables:  Any crime subsequently
        committed by a person who is illegally present in America.
         Kate Steinle's case in San Francisco is an excellent example
        of this.   These crimes are ENABLED because the illegal alien
        is in America.  If he is out of America, he might still commit
        crimes, but they would be crimes that some other government
        would have to deal with. 

        Also, keep in mind that the U.S. government doesn't need to
        actually convict these people of some crime, in order to expel
        them.  Put simply, if the government had actually been
        enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
        easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
        I suspect to be, 20 million.  (the figures bandied commonly
        about, 11-12 million are nonsense.)

        So, if ICE actually did its job, much of the crime associated
        with illegal aliens simply wouldn't occur. " 



        * 'illegal' re-entry 'enables' crimes.
        * person who is 'illegally' present in America
        * crimes are ENABLED because the 'illegal' alien is in
          America 
        * government doesn't need to convict...people...in order to
          expel them. 

        "if the government had actually been
        enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
        easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
        I suspect to be, 20 million" 

        that ^^^^^ sounds like a clear 'complaint' doesnt it. Notice
        also the unfounded assertion, typical of propaganda, about the
        numbers, inflated to 20 millions.

        And the punch line, if "ICE actually did its job" those dirty
        foreign 'criminals' wouldn't commit the 'crimes' they allegedly
        commit in AMERIKKKA.


        meh.



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> >> Honestly, TSA and ICE just look like jobs programs to me. Jobs 
> >> programs to satisfy authoritarians.
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> > I don't believe I ever disagreed with this concept.
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