On 07/31/2020 09:25 PM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:14:24 -0700 > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > > >> >> I'm mocking the idea that anarchy is workable for the existing >> population, generally. > > > so who the fuck you think are? =) > > Oh yes, you're an enlightened elitist who thinks he's way above the > 'existing population', though not in moral terms of course, because he's an > 'utilitarian'.
I'm fundamentally a hedonist, in that having fun is my major goal in life. But yes, I'm utilitarian. And a scientist. I didn't say "above". Indeed, I'm among the least community minded here. Right on the edge. It's just that I'm such a charming guy ;) >> However, it's a hugely self-selected community, with an explicit social >> contract, and members who don't play well get shunned and booted. I >> really don't think that such a community would work for random sheeple. > > So that's your argument against personal rights eh. Wait, your little > community tale, whether real or imaginary, is not an argument. Then again, > utilitarianism is even less of an argument. There's no right to be a member of a voluntary organization. >> So what's your path to anarchy? Love? Education? Kill the assholes? > > That's not the subject at hand. Who are you to define the "subject at hand"? And it's a simple question, no? If you don't have an answer, I guess that I default to mocking you for being uselessly dogmatic. >>> STILL, if people on this list were actually 'cypherpunks', instead of >>> techno-fascist posers, then your comment would be as out of place as it >>> should be. >> >> There are no rules here, my friend :) > > Of course there are rules. Basic logical rules. The pertinent rule in > this case being : if you're not an anarchist, then you're not a cypherpunk, > so what are you doing here? So you say. > And just in case I need to spell out the painfully obvious. That's not > a 'rule' to be 'enforced' by some 'owner' of some 'server'. > > > So tell me, what do you think about the demographics of the flu farce > in germany? What's your opinion as Englightened Science Worshipper? Do you > want more thermal cameras like our Agent Jim Bell? Here, some basic > arithmetic : I don't much care. We won't know how it will go for a year or two. It could go away, or it could get worse, or another one could come along. But human technological society is doomed, one way or another. > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-July/081633.html Being over 70, I'd rather not be surrounded by masses of infected idiots. And damn, I'm glad that I don't live in Texas or California. Or the South, generally. However, I do see the logic of letting old folks die, and trashing the economy less. But then, a trashed economy releases less CO2, so maybe that's a good thing. So overall, I don't care much.