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Main Entry: 1punk Pronunciation: 'p&[ng]k Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1596 1 archaic : PROSTITUTE 2 [probably partly from 3punk] : NONSENSE, FOOLISHNESS 3 a : a young inexperienced person : BEGINNER, NOVICE; especially : a young man b : a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian c : a youth used as a homosexual partner 4 a : PUNK ROCK b : a punk rock musician c : one who affects punk styles ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: > > > have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some > > punk <> anarchy > > 'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint. > anti-establishment/activist <> anarchy either. > > The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on the punk scene until > the late 70's and early 80's. In particular the club scene in England > (those crazy Brits and their unemployment, crank & horse). > > When punk really took off (it began in the 60's w/ folks like Iggy Pop > and the Stooges) in the early 70's (New York Dolls, Germs, etc.) it was a > direct result of the crappy music (if only every Grease soundtrack would > self-implode...here's hoping). It was intended to be a return to the > 'roots' of rock and roll and to attempt to escape from the large record > companies and their contracts. It fathered the current 'indy' music scene. > > It's also interesting that this is when the 'industrial' music genre began > with bands like Throbbing Gristle (ie Genesis P. Orridge) and Einsturzende > Neubauten (Go Blixa!!! - You can't build without destroying). At one point > P. Orridge was looking to engineer/produce Suzie and the Banshee's first > album, Billy Idol told here to stay away from those crazies... > > Kids... > > "Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it." > > George Santyana > > "The mouth is the wound of the alphabet. My screams turn back. To lick the > wound..." > > "Blutvergiftung" > (Sung backwards) > Einsterzende Neubauten > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > > "I throw poo!".....Bumper Sticker of a Funny Monkey > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >