Bill Witherspoon wrote:
> Carl Karsten wrote:
>> Bill Witherspoon wrote:
>>> Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>> Ed Leafe wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 13, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -> We're using  >> Windows >> Authentication currently,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that is the 'problem.'
>>>>>   Why? All that means is that SqlServer will authenticate the username/ 
>>>>> pw through Windows authentication. If the username/pw is legit, it  
>>>> When using win, you don't need to pass a user/pw, and I think you need to 
>>>> tell 
>>>> it which method to use.  so if anything, passing a user/pw may be the way 
>>>> to 
>>>> tell it to use SQL auth.
>>>>
>>>>> should be fine. In fact, when I helped test pymssql for Dabo, I used  
>>>>> Windows authentication to my SQL Server.
>>>> Was your server set to win-only or mixed?
>>>>
>>>> Carl K
>>>>
>>> Carl,
>>> It's set to mixed. Let me try to remove the user/pass right now.
>> If it is set to mixed, then I would try to use SQL, not win.
>>
>>> Well, that's weird - if you leave the user/pass parameters it looks like
>>> it defaults to user = "sa". No go there either.
>> yeah, I think there is a parameter you need to pass that explicitly tells it 
>> to 
>> use Win.
>>
>>> I also just tried user='billw' with no password, and password=''. No go.
>> Is that a user/pw that the server knows about, or a win user?
>>
>> If you /join #dabo on irc.freenode.net I'll setup a server setup you can hit.
>>
>> Carl K
>>
>>
> 
> Thanks Carl,
> That's a generous offer - I'll take you up on it if it comes to that!

I am around tonight and tomorrow morning. some time in the afternoon I will be 
out.  it isn't that generous - I just need to tweak my firewall.conf, restart, 
give you a user/pw, wait for the test and tweak it back when we are done.  that 
explanation probably just doubled the amount of work :)

> Since I last posted, I tried changing the SQLDB to Windows
> Authentication only from Mixed. That didn't seem to help.

flip it back, make sure you know what your SA pw is and test with that.

> 
> The user/pass I'm using is my own domain user/pass (it's not a local
> machine user/pass if that's what you mean). As for the server knowing
> about it, I guess I assumed that it was querying our Domain Controller
> behind the scenes?

I don't think it is that 'simple', where the use of simple is being stretched...

win auth is something like: log into your work station using a user/pw that 
gets 
authenticated somewhere, somehow, and then when you try to connect to the sql 
server it uses a token (or something your work station was given) to identify 
yourself to sql.  I don't think sql ever sends your user/pw anywhere, cuz I 
don't think it ever gets it.

> 
> I've resisted trying to set up SQL authentication because I didn't want
> the headache of managing another set of users in addition to our AD

SQL auto is simple: you setup a user/pw on the server, and you use that user/pw 
when you log in.  I have never had to deal with enough users for it to be a 
headache.

 > setup. Maybe I'll try it though.

At least use it as a test.

Carl K


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