The base curve can be still used with the standard one instead of the
camera one, colours are quite fine then. I was doing that before the
arrival of filmic. So the base curve can be kept. And indeed it's good to
have the choice.

Le mar. 28 mai 2019 à 10:00, Florian W <flo.wern...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Not everyone has the same approach of digital development (eg. Film like
> response vs more creative curve editing, with its disadvantages) and one of
> the strong advantage of Darktable is allowing all these use cases. Starting
> a war about this won't get us anywhere in the issue at hand here.
>
>
> Le mar. 28 mai 2019 09:33, Aurélien Pierre <rese...@aurelienpierre.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> For the last time :
>>
>> *BASE CURVES ARE EVIL, CRAP, GARBAGE, NO-GO, DON'T TOUCH, BIO HAZARD,
>> KEEP AWAY, HUN HUN, SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN.*
>>
>> I wouldn't have taken 2 months of my life to develop filmic if base
>> curves had worked as expected. Base curves are a broken design and will
>> always destroy colors. I have repeated that multiple times in the past
>> years, it would be great if people started to listen.
>>
>> In darktable 2.8, there will be a global preference to have the base
>> curves disabled by default because they really harm, especially for the
>> newest HDR cameras. Until then, the first thing you need to do while
>> opening a raw picture is to disable that god-forsaken module manually.
>>
>> Thanks for confirming it has nothing to do with matrices though. That
>> means everything works as expected.
>>
>> Aurélien.
>> Le 28/05/2019 à 09:00, Florian Hühn a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> If RawTherapee is really using the same matrices, it would be
>>> interesting to find out what's being done differently (or additionally)...
>>>
>>> RawTherapee uses dcraw for import. I took the  A7RIII testchart raw and
>> ran it through  'dcraw -v -w -o 1 -T DSC00157.ARW', then imported the .ARW
>> and the TIFF created by dcraw into DarkTable. The TIFF lokes more natural
>> to me. Especially the skin color of the guy on the right looks somehow a
>> bit yellowish / ill in the .ARW but more natural in the TIFF from dcraw.
>> BUT: When importing the TIFF no base curve is applied. When I disable
>> base curve on the .ARW and instead use levels and tone curve manually i can
>> get a look that is closer to the TIFF (i.e. the dcraw variant).
>> Maybe it comes down to different default settings in DarkTable importing
>> vs. dcraw. At some point I'd like to double-check that the matrix
>> calculations done by DT are indeed carried out as intended, but so far I
>> didn't find a way to artificially create a raw-file for this purpose.
>>
>>
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