I agree that the crop and rotate combined make more sense paired together.
I probably use those two corrections 20 times more often than perspective
corrections.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 7:15 PM Bruce Williams <stu...@audio2u.com> wrote:

> I'll add my voice to those who think crop and rotate made more sense.
> I'm sure I'll get use to it with time, but I use crop in every image, and
> rotation on 95% of them, but perspective very rarely.
> Cheers,
> Bruce Williams.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021, 06:47
> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Re: split of Crop and Rotate to "Crop", and,
> "Rotate and Perspective" in 3.8
> To: darktable-user <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
>
>
> In rotate and perspective you can choose original format instead of
> largest area.  When you do that, you can click in the image and change the
> crop by moving the mouse.  You may still need to do a final crop, but I
> find a lot of the time I can get a satisfactory crop doing this.
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 8:50 AM Bernhard <darkta...@intervalsignals.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Technically it's understandable that this is separated and grouped as is.
>> Neither crop nor flip/rotate do any recalculation of pixel values, they
>> just reorder them (rotate/flip) or throw some of them away (crop).
>>
>> So as is: rotate freely (any angle) is technically the same as
>> perspective correction: you have to take every pixel and it's surrounding
>> and recalculate new values with rounding errors and interpolations and ...
>>
>> Perhaps you may configure quick access group to your needs ...
>>
>> --
>>
>> regards
>> Bernhard
>>
>> https://www.bilddateien.de
>>
>> Willy Williams schrieb am 30.12.21 um 14:06:
>> >
>> > I, too, find the separation of crop, rotate and perspective rather
>> difficult to justify.  From my perspective of doing architectural and real
>> estate photography, I'd prefer to have them all in a single module, not
>> separated by retouch and exposure in the v3.0 RAW module order.
>> >
>> > Willy Williams
>> >
>> > ************************************************************
>> >
>> > On 12/30/2021 at 07:36, Archie Macintosh wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 11:26, Andrew Greig <and...@algphoto.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     I gave this a red hot go out of respect for the developers, but I
>> miss having Crop and rotate in the one module because I have to perform
>> those two operations in almost every shot...
>> >>
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> I have to agree with Andrew: crop and rotate are operations I
>> routinely use together – I almost never bother with perspective – so I,
>> too, would prefer them to be together in a single module. (I can, of
>> course, see that this preference is related to the kind of photography I
>> do, and may not suit everyone.)
>> >>
>> >> (And this observation does not detract from my immense respect for,
>> and gratitude to, the developers, for all their amazing work.)
>> >>
>> >>
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