Yes, it is good that we have the choice and can run either way isn't it?  I am 
also myself surprised at how good the embedded jpegs were - they aren't so good 
for me now though as I have reduced the embedded jpeg size.

I don't think dt will ever be able to satisfactorily base its lightroom view on 
the full raw images as the time to just read a large number of raws off disk, 
let alone process them, is going to be unpleasant.  If you really want a good 
100% loupe in lr the best way might be to start with a contribution to the 
rawspeed project allowing raw conversion of just a small defined loupe area, if 
we are going to read and convert the whole image for our loupe display there 
would I imagine be little speed difference between that and just viewing the 
image in darkroom mode.

Colours don't differ much at all between lr and dr views for me but I think 
this will perhaps just be a factor of how much in-camera jpeg processing is 
done.  There might be some mileage in tweaking your camera's base curve to 
match the typical camera settings you yourself tend to use if this is important 
to you.

As far as I know dt uses the embedded jpeg unless you have modified the photo 
in darkroom, after which lr will display the modified image, probably taking 
advantage of its cached thumbnails if available.  For real improvements in lr 
image detail it probably needs modification of dt's thumbnail cacheing policy 
so that a large persistent cache of thumbnails is retained - which might be a 
relatively easy change.

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Edwards [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 14 March 2013 12:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Darktable-users] Colours in lighttable image

On 2013-03-14 22:53, Michael Völker wrote:
> The file has an embedded out-of-camera image embedded. For me, it
> makes a lot of sense for darktable to use that image for a simple
> preview.

Hmm ... I appreciate the preference setting to turn this off. For a quick 
thumbnail I suppose it might be OK but for a fullscreen preview I'm surprised 
the embedded jpeg even contains enough pixels let alone a suitable compression 
level to justify a fullscreen view. I would really like a 100% Loupe view in 
lighttable (and like to think one day I may find time to code it) but if the LT 
is just based on a crappy embedded jpeg there may be little point to that.

It's also interesting the colours differ so much. Curves might be wrong or 
should it be put down to white balance?

I know I have often gone and modified one of a series of bracketed exposures 
and find that one then looks different in lighttable (small
size) to the others, but also different to in darktable. The latter may be just 
an illusion but as for the former - what triggers DT to override the embedded 
preview with its own processed image in LT mode?

Russell


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