Rob Z. Smith <RZSmith@...> writes:

> 
> Does anyone understand the mechanics behind these  'self feathering'
claims?   I had a quick look at the
> referenced article and it seemed to me to be essentially just creating a
bunch of luminosity ranges
> somewhat analogous to the zone iop and I didn't see any obvious basis for
overlap between the 'zones' which
> might introduce such  feathering.
> 
> If that is the case any feathering is going to be a natural effect of
using luminosity based selections which
> (along with all parametric selections)  tend to be much subtler than drawn
maks, and if this is right the dt
> parametric masks are I guess likely to be a better bet than these
luminosity layers as they allow gradients
> rather than just discrete ranges. But I might have it all wrong ....

Rob,

Perhaps tonight I'll try to do the same kinds of effects on both Gimp and
DT. In my reply to Johannes, I now feel parametric masks may suffice, even
if they're not quite the same as what the article has. I'll compare and
hopefully report back to the list. 

I think perhaps we mean the same thing but just use different terminology.
By "self-feathering", I just meant something like continuously smooth
transitions. My (rather crude) way of using the parametric masks thus far
was to keep the bottom and top triangles of the input range aligned. This
leads to sharp edges in the mask. I would then compensate for this by adding
a blur to the mask. However, this is still not adequate as anything not near
the edge of the mask is fully selected. What the article's technique does is
to vary the opacity of the selection based on luminosity. DT also allows for
this if you move the upper and lower triangles independently. I never did
have a good feel for this till I thought about it earlier today (after
posting to the list). 

The only real difference I see is that DT's interpolation for the opacity is
linear, whereas with Gimp you can choose a different opacity "curve". 

Thanks everyone for the conversations. I now want to go back to all my
previous photos and re-edit!

Mueen


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