Sriram Natarajan wrote:
> Yes, I agree that we cannot simply bundle some thing just because others
> are doing so. I also agree that it would be useful to know how many
> people want to use it. Any suggestions on how to get this information ?
> Within webstack-discuss, where I am currently involved , I got feedback
> from 2 direct customers asking for unixODBC as well as Free TSD support
> within PHP.
>
> Well, one way to get user community feedback would be get the packages
> available in IPS format (new packaging format to be introduced within
> Indiana) and track the number of downloads happening. If we can do
> this, then we can decide as to whether this needs to be integrated
> within Open Solaris. Does this sound a reasonable thing to do ?
Yes, it is good idea how to measure it. But ;-), if we can offer this
packages in this way why they integrated? Especially Free TSD which is
more beta and by my opinion it is good for some relief but not as a
stable 24x7 solution. OK. It depends on future support model and more
things which is not probably clear now. Important now is collect data
and I agree your proposal is good.
Zdenek
> For example, if a customer can download the unixODBC or Free TSD client
> drivers on his SXDE machine by doing some thing like (as given below),
> that would be great way to find out the user community interested in
> using these packages in Open Solaris
>
> pkg install http://database.opensolaris.org/unixodbc.pkg
>
> or
>
> pkg install http//database.opensolaris.org/freetsd.pkg
>
>
> - Sriram
>
> Zdenek Kotala wrote:
>> Sriram Natarajan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Just to let you know , other OS distributors have distributed
>>> unixODBC drivers for some time now.
>>
>> It is true, but on other side important is how many users use it. If
>> we integrate unixODBC into opensolaris, then we will not able to
>> remove it in the future and somebody will must sustain it.
>>
>> By my opinion, until we don't know how many people would like to have
>> unixODBC inside opensolaris we cannot make decision. Integrated
>> something because somebody has it in another distribution is not good
>> way.
>>
>> Zdenek
>>
>>
>>
>>> I very much hope that we consider to bundle it as well so that
>>> upstack components like PHP community can benefit from this integration.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> thanks
>>> sriram
>>>
>>> Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sriram,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am currently involved with WebStack project in OpenSolaris and
>>>>> would like to add more extensions for recently integrated PHP so
>>>>> that programmers can use our platform for development / production
>>>>> purposes. Based on the some of the feedback we received from some
>>>>> customers (outside Sun), it seems that we need to more database
>>>>> support within PHP and this requires databases client libraries
>>>>> like Free TSD , Oracle Instant Client and unixODBC to pre-exist on
>>>>> the system.
>>>>>
>>>> In principle I'm in favor of more drivers. However, I have a few
>>>> questions:
>>>>
>>>> What's the licensing on the Oracle client? We can't necessarily
>>>> just include proprietary SW on Opensolaris.
>>>>
>>>> FreeTDS is a bit beta-quality, so it would require some QA, and
>>>> probably debugging for Solaris, first. Who's asking for this? Are
>>>> there really a lot of users who have a DB server on Windows and a
>>>> web server on Solaris?
>>>>
>>>> unixODBC/iODBC keeps coming up as an issue, but we're not seeing
>>>> actual user requests. Do you have users with a need for it? That
>>>> could affect the priority.
>>>>
>>>> --Josh
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