Hi Sajjad,
  I propose to use Google API itself to extract some information. How is 
this violating G M terms of service ?
  But it is subject to test whether really we can scrape out good data from 
it or not.

Regards,
Suvajit

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:22 AM UTC+5:30, Sajjad Anwar wrote:
>
> Hey, 
>
> On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, "Suvajit" <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good job Thej & Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop & route info from their 
> website and presenting on OSM.
> >
> > But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 
> 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing 
> ones.
> > Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But 
> unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly.
> > I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in 
> a given locality. 
> > So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to 
> extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time.
>
> Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of 
> Service <https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html>. Even if you 
> scrape the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful way. 
>
> >
> > On the live tracking point, BMTC  already awarded a project last year to 
> put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is 
> expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works 
> well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses.
> > This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop 
> database building.
> >
> > Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this 
> project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule 
> information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in 
> GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it.
> >
> > Sajjad,
> >   What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Suvajit
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
> >>
> >> Is it live somewhere?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> >> http://thejeshgn.com
> >> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
> >>
> >> On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, "srinivas kodali" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected 
> Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. 
> >>>
> >>> Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus 
> routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as 
> objects. 
> >>>> It can help general junta to access it easily.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Meera
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OSM allows gtfs tags -
> >>>>> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
> >>>>> Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
> >>>>> the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do 
> you
> >>>>> know what license BMTC publishes this in?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Sajjad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >>>>> > We can.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > --
> >>>>> > Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> >>>>> > http://thejeshgn.com
> >>>>> > GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, "Sajjad Anwar" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense 
> to
> >>>>> >> publish this data in the GTFS format
> >>>>> >> (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
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