On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Suvajit <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Sajjad,
>   I propose to use Google API itself to extract some information. How is
> this violating G M terms of service ?

Check clause 2 here - https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

>   But it is subject to test whether really we can scrape out good data from
> it or not.
>
> Regards,
> Suvajit
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:22 AM UTC+5:30, Sajjad Anwar wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, "Suvajit" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Good job Thej & Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop & route info from their
>> > website and presenting on OSM.
>> >
>> > But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have
>> > 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing
>> > ones.
>> > Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But
>> > unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly.
>> > I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in
>> > a given locality.
>> > So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to
>> > extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time.
>>
>> Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of
>> Service. Even if you scrape the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful
>> way.
>>
>> >
>> > On the live tracking point, BMTC  already awarded a project last year to
>> > put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is 
>> > expected
>> > to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well we can
>> > get the GPS logs of BMTC buses.
>> > This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop
>> > database building.
>> >
>> > Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this
>> > project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule
>> > information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in
>> > GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it.
>> >
>> > Sajjad,
>> >   What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Suvajit
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is it live somewhere?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> >> http://thejeshgn.com
>> >> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, "srinivas kodali" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected
>> >>> Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore.
>> >>>
>> >>> Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus
>> >>>> routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as
>> >>>> objects.
>> >>>> It can help general junta to access it easily.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Meera
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> OSM allows gtfs tags -
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
>> >>>>> Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
>> >>>>> the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> know what license BMTC publishes this in?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>> Sajjad.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> > We can.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > --
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>> >>>>> > http://thejeshgn.com
>> >>>>> > GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, "Sajjad Anwar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense
>> >>>>> >> to
>> >>>>> >> publish this data in the GTFS format
>> >>>>> >> (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
>> >>>>> >>
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